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#193853 26-Mar-2016 21:26
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So we had a referendum about the flag and now Dunne wants to propose a new referendum:

NZHerald:

"The question would be something along the lines of "should New Zealand become a Republic within the Commonwealth with an elected President as head of state?"

He said Ireland provided a good model, with a parliamentary system and an elected president as head of state.

"The elected president does not exercise any executive functions and is obliged to act on the advice of his or her ministers, in pretty much the same way as our Governor-General does now."

That is very misleading from Dunne. There are times when a Governor General must interpret the constitutional legislation and act accordingly and independent of advice from ministers. Formation of a government is potentially one of those times.

So that is the responsibility of the office.

The problem with creating an office for a President is the risk that office will get more power. I think I prefer a council of ministers and a deposable prime minister that can be dismissed by parliament.

So that would mean the new office is called something other than president. Any one want to try? ; ).


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  #1520208 26-Mar-2016 22:00
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Oh god make the pain stop pleeeeaaassseeeee




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  #1520231 26-Mar-2016 22:50
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MikeB4: Oh god make the pain stop pleeeeaaassseeeee

 

 

 

Mmmm....drugs are baaad, m'okay? (in best Mr Mackey voice) but perhaps they can help!






 
 
 
 


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  #1520256 27-Mar-2016 08:40
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If this does start up I will get a 40ft container of Tramadol. NZ couldn't have a mature discussion about a sodding flag (reference the flag thread for example) and made a complete hash of the process. Imagine the horror show a discussion regarding being a republic would like, it's just to much to contemplate.




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  #1520265 27-Mar-2016 09:04
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Well, it's simple really. We should've chosen the laser kiwi flag and had an actual kiwi with a frickin' laser beam on its head made president. If you're unwilling to risk being blinded by the kiwi you're not dedicated enough to be a government leader.





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  #1520266 27-Mar-2016 09:08
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I think he's just hopping on the referendum bandwagon, getting some advertising in. We are an independent state, I can't see what needs to change.


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  #1520334 27-Mar-2016 12:36
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tdgeek:

 

I think he's just hopping on the referendum bandwagon, getting some advertising in. We are an independent state, I can't see what needs to change.

 

 

Well it would get rid of the  expensive GG and all those organizations that insist on having "Royal" infront of their names.. 





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old3eyes: Well it would get rid of the  expensive GG and all those organizations that insist on having "Royal" infront of their names.. 

 

 

You would make a major saving in the defence budget, the NZSAS is the only unit without a Royal prefix, I believe.

 

RNZN, RNZAF, RNZIR etc.


 
 
 
 


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  #1520345 27-Mar-2016 13:29
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old3eyes:

 

 

 

Well it would get rid of the  expensive GG 

 

 

 

 

Well, horses are expensive but I'm not sure they really make up that much of the government budget.





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  #1520349 27-Mar-2016 13:41
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roobarb:

old3eyes: Well it would get rid of the  expensive GG and all those organizations that insist on having "Royal" infront of their names.. 



You would make a major saving in the defence budget, the NZSAS is the only unit without a Royal prefix, I believe.


RNZN, RNZAF, RNZIR etc.


Save the repaint and say the 'R' stands for Republic of.

Solved!

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Contractual obligation to reference Monty Python

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso

 

 


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roobarb:

 

old3eyes: Well it would get rid of the  expensive GG and all those organizations that insist on having "Royal" infront of their names.. 

 

 

You would make a major saving in the defence budget, the NZSAS is the only unit without a Royal prefix, I believe.

 

RNZN, RNZAF, RNZIR etc.

 

 

My wife is a member of the Royle Epsom Bridge Club. What would become of that?





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  #1520410 27-Mar-2016 15:51
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According to the website they moved the Royle Epsom Bridge Club from Epsom to Meadowbank and kept the same name. So probably nothing ; ).

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tdgeek:

I think he's just hopping on the referendum bandwagon, getting some advertising in. We are an independent state, I can't see what needs to change.

if he wants a referendum, maybe he should start a discussion about something important

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  #1520419 27-Mar-2016 16:04
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I for one welcome our new President Key.





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  #1520421 27-Mar-2016 16:06
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gzt: According to the website they moved the Royle Epsom Bridge Club from Epsom to Meadowbank and kept the same name. So probably nothing ; ).

 

Yes - they made the move just to out-fox and keep one step ahead of GCSB and SIS. So far it's working a treat. A quasi-monarchist subversive pressure group called Royle Epsom but based in Meadowbank - clever.





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