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#195483 21-Apr-2016 13:37
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Hey guys, I came across with a T last night. Was wondering if I can turn right in this situation?

 

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  #1537459 21-Apr-2016 13:39
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Need to know the road markings, and all the the traffic lights.


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  #1537461 21-Apr-2016 13:39
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Not if it's a red light for you...

 

(EDIT: Can you find it on google maps streetview so we can see the intersection and lights?)





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  #1537462 21-Apr-2016 13:40
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Not while there's a red light you can't, no.





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  #1537468 21-Apr-2016 13:46
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From the perspective of the car wanting to turn right

 

If

 

- The light is green for going straight ahead

 

- and no red arrow prevents a right turn 

 

Then I believe: 

 

You may turn right, providing oncoming traffic is clear to let you do so. 

 

In the event of a steady stream of oncoming traffic you may move into the intersection (i.e. past the 'stop lines' marked for the traffic lights) 

 

You then wait in the middle of the intersection for oncoming traffic to clear, or get stopped at the light.  At which point you can complete your right turn.

 

In Auckland at least, this scenario is becoming less common as more and more intersections have red lights to prevent turning.

 

 


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  #1537471 21-Apr-2016 13:52
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In the drawing above (showing a red light, and the car sitting where it is), you cannot turn right. The light is red. End of story. 

 

If the car wanting to turn right was in the middle of the intersection and had been waiting to turn right when the light CHANGED to red, then yes it may continue with it's maneuver and turn right.

 

That, however, is not what is shown in the drawing above.





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  #1537473 21-Apr-2016 13:53
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Can't tell from the OP's drawing what that red light relates to and which way it faces.

 

Is it an arrow, or is the arrow just pointing to the label?




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  #1537484 21-Apr-2016 14:10
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sidefx:

 

Not if it's a red light for you...

 

(EDIT: Can you find it on google maps streetview so we can see the intersection and lights?)

 

 

 

 

Hey good idea. It's the T intersection between Rata St and Rimu St. When I stopped at the flash median waiting to turn right from Rata to Rimu (RED traffic light facing me on and the cars on the opposite side were waiting), the cars behind beeped at me and overtook me. I was quite confused do I need to wait or go in this case.

 

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  #1537488 21-Apr-2016 14:14
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Alfie:

 

sidefx:

 

Not if it's a red light for you...

 

(EDIT: Can you find it on google maps streetview so we can see the intersection and lights?)

 

 

 

 

Hey good idea. It's the T intersection between Rata St and Rimu St. When I stopped at the flash median waiting to turn right from Rata to Rimu (RED traffic light facing me on and the cars on the opposite side were waiting), the cars behind beeped at me and overtook me. I was quite confused do I need to wait or go in this case.

 

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On the red light no, you cannot turn





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  #1537494 21-Apr-2016 14:21
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MikeB4:

 

Alfie:

 

sidefx:

 

Not if it's a red light for you...

 

(EDIT: Can you find it on google maps streetview so we can see the intersection and lights?)

 

 

 

 

Hey good idea. It's the T intersection between Rata St and Rimu St. When I stopped at the flash median waiting to turn right from Rata to Rimu (RED traffic light facing me on and the cars on the opposite side were waiting), the cars behind beeped at me and overtook me. I was quite confused do I need to wait or go in this case.

 

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On the red light no, you cannot turn

 

 

Thank you Mike. That's also what I think. But why the cars beeped and overtook me to turn right?


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  #1537496 21-Apr-2016 14:23
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Yes you can.

 

The lights are controlling traffic for the pedestrian crossing.

 

By turning right you are not going through the pedestrian crossing therefore you are not controlled by the traffic lights.

 

 


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  #1537499 21-Apr-2016 14:24
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Alfie:

 

MikeB4:

 

Alfie:

 

sidefx:

 

Not if it's a red light for you...

 

(EDIT: Can you find it on google maps streetview so we can see the intersection and lights?)

 

 

 

 

Hey good idea. It's the T intersection between Rata St and Rimu St. When I stopped at the flash median waiting to turn right from Rata to Rimu (RED traffic light facing me on and the cars on the opposite side were waiting), the cars behind beeped at me and overtook me. I was quite confused do I need to wait or go in this case.

 

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On the red light no, you cannot turn

 

 

Thank you Mike. That's also what I think. But why the cars beeped and overtook me to turn right?

 

 

 

 

On closer look by zooming on my PC it is not clear cut if the right turn is controlled or right hand rule applies are there any lights further back out of sight of camera? or any signs





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  #1537503 21-Apr-2016 14:33
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na IMO that intersection is different as the right turn is not actually part of the lights. the red light is there for pedestrians and to stop traffic coming in the other direction to the OP to, 1. let people like the OP turn right, and 2. let people turn left out of Rimu street

 

you can tell this by the road markings and the fact there would be lights on the other side (your side) of the intersection, you don't actually pass through the lights in any way shape or form so you don't need to stop for them


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  #1537504 21-Apr-2016 14:34
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djtOtago:

 

Yes you can.

 

The lights are controlling traffic for the pedestrian crossing.

 

By turning right you are not going through the pedestrian crossing therefore you are not controlled by the traffic lights.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looking at the larger photo, I think this is the correct answer - though that does look like a bit of a confusing set of lights. 





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  #1537505 21-Apr-2016 14:35
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sidefx:

 

djtOtago:

 

Yes you can.

 

The lights are controlling traffic for the pedestrian crossing.

 

By turning right you are not going through the pedestrian crossing therefore you are not controlled by the traffic lights.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looking at the larger photo, I think this is the correct answer - though that does look like a bit of a confusing set of lights. 

 

 

should have a sign saying right turn on red permitted to make it clearer


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  #1537506 21-Apr-2016 14:39
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I agree: -

 

- The turn is before the stop line and the intersection is not controlled by the traffic lights (no traffic lights on side road).

 

- The lights do appear to be controlling a pedestrian crossing past the intersection.

 

Silly arrangement though.

 

Edit: an aerial shot would make htis clearer but I can't find the intersection in the photo - google earth finds one in New Lynn

 

djtOtago:

 

Yes you can.

 

The lights are controlling traffic for the pedestrian crossing.

 

By turning right you are not going through the pedestrian crossing therefore you are not controlled by the traffic lights.

 

 

 





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