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#199002 31-Jul-2016 14:37
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I happened to read some stuff on malvertising the other day and I was shocked at how bad this has become. Apparently the bad guys are employing all kinds of new nasty tricks to get legitimate ad servers to distribute very clever new malware that poses as regular advertising but can invade passing browsers even if nothing is clicked on. Scary stuff.

 

What seems to be happening is that malvertising is becoming so capable and so dangerous that ad blockers are almost essential for basic self-defense. Yet more and more sites are blocking visitors who use them. This seems to be an inescapable vicious circle. The sites need advertising to survive. They need viewers to look at it. But viewing ads is an invitation to hijacking and ransomware. If you block, you get banned. If you don’t block, you get infected. The web sites are caught in the middle. Either way their advertising doesn’t get seen and soon the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

 

How does Geekzone deal with this? How do others? How can web site advertising continue to function if the ads themselves are a poisoned chalice? Is there an answer to this kind of thing or will Internet advertising soon disappear? (!!!)

 

 





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  #1601713 31-Jul-2016 14:56
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Have you read the Ads on Geekzone thread - that would answer most of your questions re this site.


 
 
 

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  #1601714 31-Jul-2016 14:57
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My understanding is that many ad networks allow their customers almost unlimited freedom with script in advertising. Imho it is unnecessary.

Edit: most likely a commercial consideration nobody wants to be the first and break advertising portability handing advantage to competitors.

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  #1601746 31-Jul-2016 15:44
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I have been running Google AdSense since 2003 (actually the first Google AdSense property in New Zealand) and TribalFusion since about 2004. I receive three or four invites from "ad networks", mainly European ones, that want to put ads on Geekzone. I simply disregard these because frankly no other ad network these days can get the number of ads those two I use can, and when they promise "100% fill" I can pretty much guarantee it will be loads of "You're a winner" low paying, low quality, spammy ads.

 

And we can't have this here, right?

 

So I'd say whitelisting Geekzone is pretty safe, in this context.





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  #1601748 31-Jul-2016 15:46
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RunningMan:

 

Have you read the Ads on Geekzone thread - that would answer most of your questions re this site.

 

 

In special I recommend reading my reply on that thread, in addition to my comment above. That reply alone will cover a lot of ground.





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  #1601763 31-Jul-2016 16:31
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freitasm:

I have been running Google AdSense since 2003 (actually the first Google AdSense property in New Zealand) and TribalFusion since about 2004. I receive three or four invites from "ad networks", mainly European ones, that want to put ads on Geekzone. I simply disregard these because frankly no other ad network these days can get the number of ads those two I use can, and when they promise "100% fill" I can pretty much guarantee it will be loads of "You're a winner" low paying, low quality, spammy ads.


And we can't have this here, right?


So I'd say whitelisting Geekzone is pretty safe, in this context.



Go on, add some taboola and outbrain, you know you want to

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  #1601765 31-Jul-2016 16:33
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Taboola and Outbrain... Heart is bleeding now.





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  #1601784 31-Jul-2016 17:37
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antoniosk:

Go on, add some taboola and outbrain, you know you want to

I really want to know about the secrets millionaires don't want me to know about

 

Earlier I saw one on Stuffed or Herald (both are equally as dumb now) frigging "Christie Brinkley is 62 but looks 22, how is this possible?" and these a-holes are contemplating having a paywall for news? Great! Howabout some actual news and not woman's weekly level celebrity gossip then please?




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  #1601787 31-Jul-2016 17:53
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DarthKermit:

antoniosk:

Go on, add some taboola and outbrain, you know you want to

I really want to know about the secrets millionaires don't want me to know about


Earlier I saw one on Stuffed or Herald (both are equally as dumb now) frigging "Christie Brinkley is 62 but looks 22, how is this possible?" and these a-holes are contemplating having a paywall for news? Great! Howabout some actual news and not woman's weekly level celebrity gossip then please?



Even their heavily Apple centric tech reporting is poor, and looks like it comes from Oz. For example,one story about people buying older iphone models said ios 10 will be coming out for the iPhone 5s, 6 and 6s. Yet they failed to mention iphone 5, which is 4 years old, and this was very relevant to the story. You have to wonder who they are hiring. In fact I know someone who has a blog, and saw that they now have some of their stories on Stuff, but I don't think they have any journalism qualifications. Although they are well written stories.

Many of the out brain links which need popular blockers installed to prevent open multiple browser windows are almost purely click bait, especially has yoh have to go through about 25 pages of facts before you get to the info you were wanting to see, and it so often disappointing

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