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#208782 27-Feb-2017 15:13
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/89834713/house-burned-down-after-teens-burnout-went-horribly-wrong

 

 

 

Linked here because the details are from the summary judgement by the courts and not really open to creative journalism.

 

 

 

Stupidity abounds in this one, and it looks pretty epic. But the cost of this idiocy is once again being borne by all of us - ALL OF US:

 

1. The loss of the Housing NZ home

 

2. The callout from the fire services

 

3. The hospital treatment of the individuals in question

 

4. The subsequent police investigation

 

5. The trial and judicial process

 

 

 

I shudder to think what the full bill is, but it's clearly not $155k. The closing 3 sentences are the kicker though:

 

"As a penalty, Sygrove ordered Grant to complete 150 hours of community work. 

 

As the teen had no job or any form of income, no order was made for the loss incurred by the fire.

 

"There is no way you can possibly pay that without any means," Sygrove said."





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  #1727161 27-Feb-2017 15:17
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cross. i was in hysterics reading it .





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  #1727164 27-Feb-2017 15:18
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Losers!

 

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  #1727206 27-Feb-2017 15:40
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What would you have done when there was no way they could ever repay it?


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  #1727220 27-Feb-2017 15:56
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Pumpedd:

 

What would you have done when there was no way they could ever repay it?

 

 

Divided the amount of damages by the minimum wage and make him do that much community service, pd or whatever you want to call it.


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  #1727238 27-Feb-2017 16:10
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Jas777:

 

Pumpedd:

 

What would you have done when there was no way they could ever repay it?

 

 

Divided the amount of damages by the minimum wage and make him do that much community service, pd or whatever you want to call it.

 

 

He will likely never do the 150 hours, let alone ever having a hope of doing the 10,000 hours that would require. That is a lot of Saturdays (which is when they tend to do CS).

 

I'd wager this will end up back in court for more 'punishment' to be added on. Maybe ending in a couple of days in Jail.


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  #1727257 27-Feb-2017 16:48
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"...asked his dad if he could use his car to do a burnout."

 

If the dad said yes (the article doesn't say) then surely he bares a lot of responsibility too?


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  #1727259 27-Feb-2017 16:51
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Just because he has no means of paying this now, doesn't mean he will never have the means. People from all walks of life manage to pay off mortgages far bigger than this.


 
 
 
 


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  #1727288 27-Feb-2017 17:14
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Curious to know what sort of car it was, Takes a bit to pop a set then catch on fire etc.

 

I bet the culprits dropped diesel on the ground, From experience seems to make it a little bit slippery.


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  #1727385 27-Feb-2017 22:12
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That is ridiculous. What sort of deterrent is that and what sort of message does it send to his fellow pond life?






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  #1727397 27-Feb-2017 23:14
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other than a small complication of a fire, takes a bit of skill to do a burnout in a garage and not crash!





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  #1727407 28-Feb-2017 00:00
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Three words. Compulsory Military service. Some people need to go into boot camp. People can be changed.


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  #1727419 28-Feb-2017 07:19
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The guy was an idiot. He definitely screwed up bigtime. Housing NZ is (as far as I know) "self-insuring"....so yeah....we all pay for it. 

But I've had tenants who have no money....and won Orders from the Tenancy Tribunal for payment of damages, repairs, etc....and the people concerned didn't even own a t-shirt without a hole in it, never mind have any money. WINZ was paying their rent.....You'll never see any money or useful PD from them. They truly are losers. 

Punishing a loser is almost not possible.....their every day in this world is punishment already by most people's normal standards of living. 

All you can really do is avoid them completely, fix what they break and read the obituaries every day. They often turn up there sooner than later. 

Being an idiot - consistently - is usually fatal. 

Maybe this kid will learn not to be so stupid in future......and most definitely sending him to jail is the worst thing possible. I've seen that over and over. 

If you want more criminals.....just put more people in jail. Works every time. 





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  #1727437 28-Feb-2017 08:54
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I have distant in-law relative who had tens of thousands in fines commuted to community service. 

 

At $/hours it was a pretty generous consultancy rate.





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  #1727721 28-Feb-2017 15:21
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Do we have Prison Farms in NZ?

 

If not, we should. Some long months of hard physical labour might wake these morons up a bit and actually produce some return to the taxpayer to offset the costs of their stupidity.






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  #1727781 28-Feb-2017 16:39
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Geektastic:

 

Do we have Prison Farms in NZ?

 

If not, we should. Some long months of hard physical labour might wake these morons up a bit and actually produce some return to the taxpayer to offset the costs of their stupidity.

 

 

I think Rangipo might still have a farm unit?





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