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Topic # 213929 19-Apr-2017 13:59 Send private message quote this post

What is peoples opinions on these? I've been asked to do one as a result of a burglary.

 

I think they were introduced when I was overseas so I missed any debate that happened at the time.

 

My initial reaction is that I'm not keen on the idea.

 

I understand that the idea is to allow victims feel like they have a say in the process.

 

But I also like the idea that justice is blind. Should the sentence be different if I'm able to write an articulate emotional letter compared with someone who can't.


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  Reply # 1767391 19-Apr-2017 14:58 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

 

 








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  Reply # 1767402 19-Apr-2017 15:19 3 people support this post Send private message quote this post

gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So given that we know thrashing people with long sentences is both expensive and ineffective for crime prevention what is your solution?


 

 



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  Reply # 1767407 19-Apr-2017 15:26 5 people support this post Send private message quote this post

UHD:

 

gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So given that we know thrashing people with long sentences is both expensive and ineffective for crime prevention what is your solution?

 

 

capital punishment :)


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  Reply # 1767415 19-Apr-2017 15:48 4 people support this post Send private message quote this post

reven:

 

UHD:

 

gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So given that we know thrashing people with long sentences is both expensive and ineffective for crime prevention what is your solution?

 

 

capital punishment :)

 

 

I'd rather them be worked to death in a frigid alpine environment constructing roads or railways. Seems fitting with world war times.






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  Reply # 1767423 19-Apr-2017 16:06 Send private message quote this post

UHD:

 

So given that we know thrashing people with long sentences is both expensive and ineffective for crime prevention what is your solution?

 

 

WE CUT OFF THEIR JOHNSON!

 

 

 

 

Seriously though, prison sentences aren't about prevention. They're about punishment.


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  Reply # 1767429 19-Apr-2017 16:23 Send private message quote this post

Journeyman:

 

UHD:

 

So given that we know thrashing people with long sentences is both expensive and ineffective for crime prevention what is your solution?

 

 

WE CUT OFF THEIR JOHNSON!

 

 

 

 

Seriously though, prison sentences aren't about prevention. They're about punishment.

 

 

 

 

I can only assume what a Johnson is but its probably a term used before my existence..
But that gave me a thought! 
Each prisoner has 1 year to figure out what they are going to do in the "Darwin Contest" to be rewarded the "Darwins Award"

 

 






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  Reply # 1767437 19-Apr-2017 16:34 Send private message quote this post

Something more like this

 


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  Reply # 1767442 19-Apr-2017 16:36 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

UHD:

 

gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So given that we know thrashing people with long sentences is both expensive and ineffective for crime prevention what is your solution?

 

 

I would propose a state funded monetary incentive for voluntary vasectomy or tubal ligation. It would look expensive short term but would pay for itself in 20 years.








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  Reply # 1767462 19-Apr-2017 16:59 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

You may be right, but how do you know this?

 

 





I reject your reality and substitute my own. - Adam Savage
 


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  Reply # 1767515 19-Apr-2017 18:36 3 people support this post Send private message quote this post

gbwelly:

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.


 


 

Victim impact statements are for the judge. The judge is interested in the impact on the victim and take this impact into account when sentencing.

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  Reply # 1767518 19-Apr-2017 18:38 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

Rikkitic:

gbwelly:


Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.



You may be right, but how do you know this?


Victim impact statements and restorative justice are two different things. This thread is getting those two confused.



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  Reply # 1767537 19-Apr-2017 19:44 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care.

 

The opinion of the person who committed the crime shouldn't really be a factor into my decision should it?

 

 


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  Reply # 1767554 19-Apr-2017 20:25 Send private message quote this post

reven:

 

UHD:

 

gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So given that we know thrashing people with long sentences is both expensive and ineffective for crime prevention what is your solution?

 

 

capital punishment :)

 

 

Wellington Prison? :-)


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  Reply # 1767555 19-Apr-2017 20:26 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

BlinkyBill:
gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Victim impact statements are for the judge. The judge is interested in the impact on the victim and take this impact into account when sentencing.

 

So he gets 7 minutes jail and not 5.

 

I am being facetious, or am I?


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  Reply # 1767557 19-Apr-2017 20:30 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

TimA:

 

reven:

 

UHD:

 

gbwelly:

 

Don't waste your time, the people who commit these crimes don't care. Restorative justice is also a farce, just a great opportunity for their gang member uncle to come along as a 'support person' and size you up during the meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So given that we know thrashing people with long sentences is both expensive and ineffective for crime prevention what is your solution?

 

 

capital punishment :)

 

 

I'd rather them be worked to death in a frigid alpine environment constructing roads or railways. Seems fitting with world war times.

 

 

A bit harsh, but you are meaning punishment and not a free lifestyle on us. Id like 6   10 hour days working in the community for free. Lots of jobs there to save councils money

 

and to give something back to the population who have rights and they got abused.


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