No camera shop sales on in Black Friday?

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Topic # 225596 25-Nov-2017 14:02

I know they have their summer deals, which really arent that great. I was hoping for some quality 40% off type sales on something like the a6300 or the x-t20. The best Ive seen is Noel Leeming selling the d5600 for the same price I can buy it for elsewhere.

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Reply # 1907681 25-Nov-2017 14:19

40% off the a6300 is never going to happen

https://store.sony.co.nz/cashback?utm_campaign=NZBlackFriday241117cashbackshopnowtile

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Reply # 1907691 25-Nov-2017 15:13

Nikon online have a sale. #JustSayin

I'd love that Sony too.

Unfortunately I've just spent craploads.

You could buy from AU

https://store.sony.com.au/cameras-interchangeablelenscamera-a6000/ILCE6300B.html#start=1

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Reply # 1907715 25-Nov-2017 17:17

haha yeah thats the NZ price I want, but after conversion and customs it would probably be $500 more than the $1300 you can get it parralel imported here for.

its a crappy lens ecology, id prefer fuji lenses but sony bodies in the range finder dslr market, although the x-e3 is pretty close now with hybrid AF and 300 odd focus points. if it was a6000 price id buy the fuji in a heart beat.

went to equitana at ASB on thursday and guys had D4s x3 bodies and $12k lenses on each body, I was like, omg i wish.

the sony a6300 with the 70-200 f2.8 would suit me fine for such and event. and very sharp primes down to ultra wide. perfect for car shows etc.

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Reply # 1907717 25-Nov-2017 17:57

Seems only Noel Leeming are doing the 20% off Nikons?

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Reply # 1907753 25-Nov-2017 21:22

exchange rate is pretty poor

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Reply # 1907761 25-Nov-2017 21:58

The margin on cameras is very low; I get to hear the pain regularly when I speak to the dealers I know. Also NZ prices can be a bit odd - I bought a Leica lens new in Singapore for $1500 less than a NZ dealer had a second hand one...

Singapore and Hong Kong are usually the cheapest, followed by the USA but warranty can be odd if you buy overseas. Some offer international warranty and some do not - and some offer it on lenses but not bodies (Nikon).

You'd be doing pretty well to buy new at a 40% discount as most dealers here would be selling well below cost at that level.

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Reply # 1908000 26-Nov-2017 15:45

The real question is do I go an a6000 and get some goodish glass, or get the x-r3 and get the 18-55 f2.8 kit lens which is a brilliant lens too good to be a kit lens really.

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Reply # 1908015 26-Nov-2017 16:42

Depends what you want. Have you considered buying second hand? Progear in Auckland have a used (Grade 9 so close to mint) Fuji XT 1 body at $819. Good camera. Plus 6 second hand lenses which (I think) will fit ranging from $361 to $1700 and covering a range from 16mm - 180mm.

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Reply # 1908391 27-Nov-2017 12:31

Yes good suggestion, but I actually prefer the range finder APSC mirroless cameras, like the a6000 x-e3.

I just prefer the handling and size. Some mirrorless cameras may as well chuck APSc sensors in there they are so big they are cheap Mirrrorless DSLRs, yet sony can put a FF sensor in a mirrorless DSLR and still be smaller rofl.

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Reply # 1908712 27-Nov-2017 22:00

TeaLeaf:

Yes good suggestion, but I actually prefer the range finder APSC mirroless cameras, like the a6000 x-e3.

I just prefer the handling and size. Some mirrorless cameras may as well chuck APSc sensors in there they are so big they are cheap Mirrrorless DSLRs, yet sony can put a FF sensor in a mirrorless DSLR and still be smaller rofl.

They're not rangefinders. They just look like them!

They also have a Fuji X Pro II which is definitely one of the best 'range finder' style mirrorless bodies.

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Reply # 1908794 28-Nov-2017 08:02

there are a few im keeping my eye on hehe

the xe-2 when it got firmware 4 basically became an x-t10 in a different body.

but ive seen many x-t1 around the $700-800 mark.

I really need a camera than can focus track well, which is mirrorless camera down fall. I see the last gen did have phase detect as well, but I cant find anything that says how many points. i presume about 70. Which should suffice to get a bird side on. Its moving subjects toward you that mirrorless cameras struggle with, even the sony a6500. Where you buy a nikon d5600 slam it in 6 FP mode and 6fps you get near 100% keepers, vs maybe 30% on the a6500.

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Reply # 1909302 29-Nov-2017 08:22

TeaLeaf:

there are a few im keeping my eye on hehe

the xe-2 when it got firmware 4 basically became an x-t10 in a different body.

but ive seen many x-t1 around the $700-800 mark.

I really need a camera than can focus track well, which is mirrorless camera down fall. I see the last gen did have phase detect as well, but I cant find anything that says how many points. i presume about 70. Which should suffice to get a bird side on. Its moving subjects toward you that mirrorless cameras struggle with, even the sony a6500. Where you buy a nikon d5600 slam it in 6 FP mode and 6fps you get near 100% keepers, vs maybe 30% on the a6500.

As with many things in life, you get what you pay for!

I recently spent 3 weeks shooting the Sony A9 for Sony in Asia and with some huge number of AF points (693 I think!) and G Master lenses on it, it focuses really really fast (anywhere on the screen just about). As does my 10 year old Nikon D3s (although the Sony is faster and has twice the res and many times the AF points). I've got a Leica SL mirrorless on my desk right now I'm testing and - although not as fast as the A9 AF - that is pretty quick too.

Downside with both of those is the significant cost of them. You might be better off with a second hand DSLR for BIF photography on a budget really - plus you can get/rent much longer lenses.