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#233270 7-Apr-2018 22:13
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Hi community,

 

one might wonder when it comes to the price of some descaler fluids of some coffee machine manufacturers, especially the famous capsule ones. Yes, I'm looking at George Clooney. cool

 

And here is how you can circumvent it before a warranty claim refusal due to the use of "wrong homebrewed" descaling fluids could happen:

 

1) get 50ml hydroxyproionic acid, 80% if you can afford it. It is known as lactic acid as well. Cheap.

 

2) mix it with 50ml plain water, ready.

 

What you get is 100ml of ready to use "decal fluid" like offered for an extraordinary price. Use it further as recommended in the relevant user manual of your machine. The recipe has been proven as rock solid since years and you really don't have to worry about any damage.

 

Note: when you can't get 80% concentration, use rule of proportion to finally have lactic acid around 40-45% concentration. i.e. if you can have only 60% lactic acid available (wherever you get it from - use search engine), you need to mix 67ml with 33ml of plain water to get 100ml of ready to use fluid and so on.

 

Well, those of you who will now recommend citric acid instead should really be aware that citric acid will corrode the often used aluminium pipes much more aggressive with no added cleanness and that's the reason by easy evidence, why warranty claims will be refused by the machine manufacturer after their inspection.

 

Enjoy next descaling procedure of your machine. wink

 

 

 

 





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  #1991322 8-Apr-2018 04:44
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Aredwood:

Geektastic:


Why would you expend so much effort to put stickers on a coffee machine?



Assuming that the OP means Descale, not decal. I thought the same thing at first regarding stickers.



Sort of on topic. How important is descaling with Rinnai Infinities?

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  #1991329 8-Apr-2018 07:32

Bung: Sort of on topic. How important is descaling with Rinnai Infinities?


Haven't come across any scale related problems with infinities on Auckland council piped water. Are you in an area with hard water?





 
 
 
 


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  #1991337 8-Apr-2018 08:39
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I thought so but checking just now apparently Foxton Beach is getting a filter to remove the Manganese from the bore water sometime mid 2018. Some US info on tankless heaters makes a lot of "servicing".

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  #1991343 8-Apr-2018 08:46
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So, how much is this homebrew all up then?

 

And time to mix?

 

 

 

I'm more leaning towards buying non pod manufacturer branded solution.

 

 


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  #1991366 8-Apr-2018 10:24
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@Tinkerisk:

 

C'mon funny guys: decalcification -> shortened "decal". cool

 

You're welcome.

 

(If there is a real need, I would be grateful if an admin could correct it to the appropriate term in native NZ-English. Thanks!)

 

 

It's not "native NZ-English". Descaler is a common English term. I can change the topic and remove the off topics replies if you want?





 

 

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  #1991420 8-Apr-2018 14:56
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Goosey:

 

So, how much is this homebrew all up then?

 

~0,95 €/200ml (~1,60 NZD)

 

"ClooneyBrand" wants 9,00€/2x 100ml here (~15,20 NZD)

 

And time to mix?

 

2 min, you can mix a bigger amount once and store it "ready to use" with no drawbacks

 

I'm more leaning towards buying non pod manufacturer branded solution.

 

It's up to you. Take it or leave it.





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  #1991427 8-Apr-2018 15:16
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freitasm:

 

@Tinkerisk:

 

C'mon funny guys: decalcification -> shortened "decal". cool

 

You're welcome.

 

(If there is a real need, I would be grateful if an admin could correct it to the appropriate term in native NZ-English. Thanks!)

 

 

It's not "native NZ-English". Descaler is a common English term. I can change the topic and remove the off topics replies if you want?

 

 

Remove it at your discretion. It's an error which has no effect to the content of the given information.





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- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense CI329, ES-16-XG, C2960X-48TS, 3 GWN7630, EL1600+800
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/1T || 2 remote HC2 14T+4T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
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- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)

 

 


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