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Topic # 23578 3-Jul-2008 11:04
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A tshirt that makes fun of jesus has been banned in nz:

http://www.3news.co.nz/News/Chiefcensorbansheavymetaltshirtoffilth/tabid/209/articleID/61714/Default.aspx?ArticleID=61714

what happens if you buy this tshirt from ebay and have it delivered to you in new zealand? would it be illegal?

a boy was arrested in aussie for wearing it:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23919622-662,00.html

australia definetely needs a bill of rights. the tshirt is not going to physically harm anyone. people may be offended but i'm sure there are some religious people out there that are offended by semi-naked billboards of women yet the australian police don't arrest the billboard maker.

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  Reply # 142473 3-Jul-2008 11:10
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If the censorship officer says it's banned then it is illegal to have it in New Zealand, even if you import it yourself.




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  Reply # 142479 3-Jul-2008 11:35
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If you watch the video in your link, the reporter says it's not the text (that you refer to) by itself, but the sexual imagery along with the text. The Chief Censor also very clearly says that simply possessing the T Shirt is illegal, which answers your question. The law is very clear about what is unacceptable.

I'm also pretty sure that Australia has an equivalent to our Bill of Rights. 





 

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 142498 3-Jul-2008 12:41
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Walking down the road with a loaded shot gun, wont physically hurt anyone either - but its illegal too. Implying something should be allowed because it wont hurt anyone is lame.

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  Reply # 142504 3-Jul-2008 13:01
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Irrespective of the tshirt content, we should be doing all we can to erradicate the crapness of a band that is cradle of filth anyway.

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  Reply # 142507 3-Jul-2008 13:05
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If anyone wants to know what the fuss is about -- http://stores.musictoday.com/store/bands/638/product_medium/BGCTCF15.jpg




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  Reply # 142510 3-Jul-2008 13:13
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australians don't want an equivalent of our bill of rights. they want a bill of rights of their own. read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Australia

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If you watch the video in your link, the reporter says it's not the text (that you refer to) by itself, but the sexual imagery along with the text. The Chief Censor also very clearly says that simply possessing the T Shirt is illegal, which answers your question. The law is very clear about what is unacceptable.

I'm also pretty sure that Australia has an equivalent to our Bill of Rights. 


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  Reply # 142558 3-Jul-2008 15:13
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While I do find the t-shirt to be mildly offensive - not all of it, just the C word - I see no reason to ban it outright. It's not inciting hatred, aggression or violence toward anyone. And, also,  it's rather truthful: The ordained do masturbate on occasion. One would have to be pretty naive to think that they don't. 

 

Perhaps what Cradle of Filth are doing here is making a statement about the hypocrisy that often exist within the Christain clergy. They're well within their rights to do so, even if they are rather brash about it.

 


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Reply # 142613 3-Jul-2008 16:44
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Where can I buy this in 4XL ?

Nothing wrong with it. Take a look at any novelty T shirt store in the country, you will find much worse than this.

If you are a parent, and don't like it, do not let your child wear it.

If your church, business, school, or home finds this offensive, have a policy against having it on display in those places.

If you dont like looking at it, turn the other way.

We don't need a Nanny state.




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  Reply # 142643 3-Jul-2008 17:56
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A picture of a topless nun masturbating.  I can totally see how that would be offensive/banned,  it's just porn on a tshirt.
It's not the shirts that's bad,  it's the public display of the shirt/porn.

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  Reply # 142644 3-Jul-2008 17:56
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tonyhughes: Where can I buy this in 4XL ?

Nothing wrong with it. Take a look at any novelty T shirt store in the country, you will find much worse than this.

If you are a parent, and don't like it, do not let your child wear it.

If your church, business, school, or home finds this offensive, have a policy against having it on display in those places.

If you dont like looking at it, turn the other way.

We don't need a Nanny state.

Wow, great logic there buddy. Should we relax the laws surrounding public nudity while we're at it?

I mean why shouldn't I be able to walk down Queen St with a huge boner for everyone to see?

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  Reply # 142647 3-Jul-2008 17:59
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Benjip: Should we relax the laws surrounding public nudity while we're at it?


Great point,  I say, Yes.

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  Reply # 142670 3-Jul-2008 18:43
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My 2c worth...

I'm not religious in any way, shape or form but do not agree with this sort of shirt being publicly displayed.

In the western society in which we live, the predominant religion is Christianity and this t-shirt looks to be deliberately designed to cause maximum offence to christians through both it's wording and it's imagery.

It's definitely not the sort of thing I would like my young children (daughters) to see, then have to keep changing the subject when the inevitable barrage of questions starts up.

The wearer of this shirt would probably also be exposing themselves to some serious violence, which may even be their intention, but they wouldn't receive an ounce of symapthy from me for any negative consequences they might experience.

And while I agree we don't need a nanny state I don't see this as being part of one.  I see it as trying to cling to at least some standards of decency.

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  Reply # 142683 3-Jul-2008 19:08
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Benjip: Should we relax the laws surrounding public nudity while we're at it?

Yes.




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  Reply # 142705 3-Jul-2008 19:38
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I'm not religious and I've even been known to use the c word myself at times (not in front of my parents or kids though) but I would certainly be pissed off if I got on a bus with my 3 & 4 year old girls and someone was standing there wearing that t-shirt. I support the censor on this one, I do not think it is fit for general display at all.

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Reply # 142706 3-Jul-2008 19:39
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tonyhughes:
Benjip: Should we relax the laws surrounding public nudity while we're at it?

Yes.
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