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#236332 29-May-2018 09:53
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I have no personal link to this story but was shocked to see that after 22 years Hayden Tyrone Poulter has been granted parole.

 

 

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12060506

 

Twenty-two years ago Poulter bludgeoned to death a woman who worked as a prostitute on Auckland's Karangahape Rd.

 

He then wrote a confession letter to the Herald, claiming he would kill again.

 

A week later, the former demolition worker killed a massage parlour worker, her boss, and attempted to kill another worker.

 

 

 

 

 

I am struggling with this on the quick look at it. He viciously planned and murdered 3 people and nearly killed another. If there was ever a case for Life without the possibility of Parole, surely this is it?

 

 


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  #2024475 29-May-2018 10:03
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Bullet between the eye balls would of saved the tax payer a shed load of money!

 

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  #2024477 29-May-2018 10:11
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without knowing all the details it is impossible to make a judgement.


 
 
 
 


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  #2024478 29-May-2018 10:12
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MikeB4:

 

without knowing all the details it is impossible to make a judgement.

 

 

I literally KNEW You were going to say that. :)

 

 

 

 


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  #2024545 29-May-2018 10:24
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networkn:

 

MikeB4:

 

without knowing all the details it is impossible to make a judgement.

 

 

I literally KNEW You were going to say that. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's because it's true wink

 

 

 

I will add though the case is disturbing and I believe the public is entitled to be given assurances and more information. There has been some parole board decisions in the past that have proven to be  catastrophic.


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  #2024551 29-May-2018 10:40
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He was tried, convicted, and sentenced for crimes committed in 1996/7, under laws applicable at the time.

 

Those laws have changed (Sentencing Act 2002 etc) so there's really no point crying about what appears to be inadequate sentencing in his case.


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  #2024552 29-May-2018 10:41
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Purely as a matter of justice for the victims, no serial killer should ever be released, it's as simple as that. No other details are required.

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  #2024607 29-May-2018 12:01
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Fred99:

 

He was tried, convicted, and sentenced for crimes committed in 1996/7, under laws applicable at the time.

 

Those laws have changed (Sentencing Act 2002 etc) so there's really no point crying about what appears to be inadequate sentencing in his case.

 

 

I guess you'll be equally blasé if he kills/hurts more people.


 
 
 
 


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  #2024639 29-May-2018 12:08
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networkn:

 

Fred99:

 

He was tried, convicted, and sentenced for crimes committed in 1996/7, under laws applicable at the time.

 

Those laws have changed (Sentencing Act 2002 etc) so there's really no point crying about what appears to be inadequate sentencing in his case.

 

 

I guess you'll be equally blasé if he kills/hurts more people.

 

 

 

 

What exactly are you proposing?

 

Re sentence him again for crimes he's already been sentenced to? 


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  #2024642 29-May-2018 12:11
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myndlyz:

 

networkn:

 

Fred99:

 

He was tried, convicted, and sentenced for crimes committed in 1996/7, under laws applicable at the time.

 

Those laws have changed (Sentencing Act 2002 etc) so there's really no point crying about what appears to be inadequate sentencing in his case.

 

 

I guess you'll be equally blasé if he kills/hurts more people.

 

 

 

 

What exactly are you proposing?

 

Re sentence him again for crimes he's already been sentenced to? 

 

 

No, he is ELIGIBLE for Parole, that doesn't mean he should GET Parole. 

 

 


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  #2024648 29-May-2018 12:14
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networkn:

 

 

 

No, he is ELIGIBLE for Parole, that doesn't mean he should GET Parole. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would say that you are not in a position to make that judgement as is no one else on these forums are in a position to make a judgement unless they were suitably experienced and present at the parole hearing.


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  #2024662 29-May-2018 12:17
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MikeB4:

 

networkn:

 

 

 

No, he is ELIGIBLE for Parole, that doesn't mean he should GET Parole. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would say that you are not in a position to make that judgement as is no one else on these forums are in a position to make a judgement unless they were suitably experienced and present at the parole hearing.

 

 

If this is the acid test you apply to everything said on these forums, then you could probably safely remove all the off-topic and probably 50% of all the other topics too. 

 

I don't feel it's unreasonable to have a discussion about, if you don't want to, then by all means, abstain. 

 

 


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  #2024665 29-May-2018 12:19
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I don't recall saying it was not right to discuss. I AM saying that judgements on teh right or wrong of this case cannot be made here and now.


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  #2024672 29-May-2018 12:22
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MikeB4:

 

I don't recall saying it was not right to discuss. I AM saying that judgements on teh right or wrong of this case cannot be made here and now.

 

 

*I* feel it's ludicrous that a serial killer could ever get 22 years. It's unfair to the victims, the families of the victims and the public to put this person into the general population, even with heavy restrictions. 

 

I would be very interested to see what criteria they use to determine this was something reasonable to do. 

 

Try as I might, I can't see any reasonable explanation. 


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  #2024679 29-May-2018 12:29
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networkn:

 

MikeB4:

 

I don't recall saying it was not right to discuss. I AM saying that judgements on teh right or wrong of this case cannot be made here and now.

 

 

*I* feel it's ludicrous that a serial killer could ever get 22 years. It's unfair to the victims, the families of the victims and the public to put this person into the general population, even with heavy restrictions. 

 

I would be very interested to see what criteria they use to determine this was something reasonable to do. 

 

Try as I might, I can't see any reasonable explanation. 

 

 

 

 

The crimes that this individual committed are terrible and if tried today would probably result in a different sentence. However he was tried and sentenced under the Law as it existed at the time of his crimes. I have a view as to what sentence I feel should be appropriate to these crimes but that has no bearing on this case.


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  #2024709 29-May-2018 12:51
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Reintroduce the death penalty, retroactively apply it to anyone with multiple separate convictions for murder, rape, or child sexual abuse. Nothing of value will be lost, and the lefties can't complain it's a miscarriage of justice because they've offended twice.





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