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#240381 5-Sep-2018 13:57

Is he trying to emulate Trump with his unhinged misuse of the internet?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/09/elon-musk-renews-ludicrous-attack-against-thai-cave-rescuer.html

I'm afraid he's quite unfit to be leading Tesla. His comments about taking Tesla private, complete with "funding secured" strike me as borderline fraudulent market manipulation. Add to that his unstable and slanderous public comments about the cave rescuer, his weird admissions about personal sleep habits, use of medication etc etc. The board of Tesla need to do something.

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#2084340 5-Sep-2018 14:02

I have read somewhere that he sleeps very little, this is probably affecting his thoughts, actions and lack of filters. Maybe he needs extended leave of absence.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2084344 5-Sep-2018 14:15

Musk is learning the hard way that mass production of cars is a unique capability that other manufacturers have developed over decades. Reports I have read say he is trying to over-automate the factory. Lot's of car assembly is still manual. While it's a laudable goal to automate everything ... walk before you run.

The cash burn of Tesla is horrific. If the company fails, I hope someone who knows how to churn out cars picks up the core technology.

I suspect Musk has a lot personally invested in making Tesla fly. As well as money he has talked a big game and is struggling to deliver on volume

Musk is a visionary, but I've never heard of a successful production line run by a visionary.

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#2084345 5-Sep-2018 14:17

MikeAqua:

Musk is learning the hard way that mass production of cars is a unique capability that other manufacturers have developed over decades. Reports I have read say he is trying to over-automate the factory. Lot's of car assembly is still manual. While it's a laudable goal to automate everything ... walk before you run.

The cash burn of Tesla is horrific. If the company fails, I hope someone who knows how to churn out cars picks up the core technology.

I suspect Musk has a lot personally invested in making Tesla fly. As well as money he has talked a big game and is struggling to deliver on volume

Musk is a visionary, but I've never heard of a successful production line run by a visionary.

Henry Ford?

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2084346 5-Sep-2018 14:18

MikeB4:

I have read somewhere that he sleeps very little, this is probably affecting his thoughts, actions and lack of filters. Maybe he needs extended leave of absence.

A NYT interview also talked of his reliance on Ambien, as reported here: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/elon-musk-tesla-tweet-private-drugs-sleeping-pills-crying-new-york-times-a8495531.html

And given Ambien's known for some interesting side effects...

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#2084354 5-Sep-2018 14:30

kryptonjohn:

The board of Tesla need to do something.

They can't ..... Musk is dug in like a tick, :)

Tesla has a bunch of Supermajority voting rules in its corporate set up,

Musk's 20-25% shareholding means to enact something he opposes needs the support of at least 85-88% of the remaining shareholders, a really high threshold.....

https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/how-elon-musk-controls-tesla-with-only-a-minority-stake-14564491

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#2084356 5-Sep-2018 14:33

kryptonjohn:

Is he trying to emulate Trump with his unhinged misuse of the internet?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/09/elon-musk-renews-ludicrous-attack-against-thai-cave-rescuer.html

I'm afraid he's quite unfit to be leading Tesla. His comments about taking Tesla private, complete with "funding secured" strike me as borderline fraudulent market manipulation. Add to that his unstable and slanderous public comments about the cave rescuer, his weird admissions about personal sleep habits, use of medication etc etc. The board of Tesla need to do something.

It is, and its not borderline either from what I have read

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#2084357 5-Sep-2018 14:33

jonathan18:

And given Ambien's known for some interesting side effects...

Although Racism is not one of them :)

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/30/health/ambien-roseanne-barr-racist-tweets-bn/index.html

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#2084405 5-Sep-2018 15:25

MikeB4:

MikeAqua:

Musk is a visionary, but I've never heard of a successful production line run by a visionary.

Henry Ford?

Sure ... but he was a visionary, because of his use and adaptation of the production line.

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#2084437 5-Sep-2018 16:51

MikeAqua:

MikeB4:

MikeAqua:

Musk is a visionary, but I've never heard of a successful production line run by a visionary.

Henry Ford?

Sure ... but he was a visionary, because of his use and adaptation of the production line.

The way he (allegedly, if what you read on the internet is true) treated his workers was far from fair and ethical though, and certainly wouldn't be tolerated today.

Sometimes I use big words I don't always fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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#2084447 5-Sep-2018 17:19

floydbloke:

The way he (allegedly, if what you read on the internet is true) treated his workers was far from fair and ethical though, and certainly wouldn't be tolerated today.

yeah, but standards and ethics are functions of the time they occur.....

Sending children up chimneys or down mines is now no longer acceptable, but many years ago it was OK

Many of the things described as "banter" in the 60s would get you fired for sexual harassment today,

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#2084449 5-Sep-2018 17:29

wellygary:

floydbloke:

The way he (allegedly, if what you read on the internet is true) treated his workers was far from fair and ethical though, and certainly wouldn't be tolerated today.

yeah, but standards and ethics are functions of the time they occur.....

Sending children up chimneys or down mines is now no longer acceptable, but many years ago it was OK

Many of the things described as "banter" in the 60s would get you fired for sexual harassment today,

Fair point.

Sometimes I use big words I don't always fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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#2084751 6-Sep-2018 10:17

floydbloke:

The way he (allegedly, if what you read on the internet is true) treated his workers was far from fair and ethical though, and certainly wouldn't be tolerated today.

That was the tip of the iceberg of Ford's unethical behaviour.

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#2084757 6-Sep-2018 10:26

MikeAqua:

floydbloke:

The way he (allegedly, if what you read on the internet is true) treated his workers was far from fair and ethical though, and certainly wouldn't be tolerated today.

That was the tip of the iceberg of Ford's unethical behaviour.

Henry Ford was a horrible person but his impact on the auto industry, mass production and way of life was huge.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2084796 6-Sep-2018 10:42

MikeB4:

MikeAqua:

floydbloke:

The way he (allegedly, if what you read on the internet is true) treated his workers was far from fair and ethical though, and certainly wouldn't be tolerated today.

That was the tip of the iceberg of Ford's unethical behaviour.

Henry Ford was a horrible person ...

So I looked him up... and... wow.

That said, it's hard to measure a person accurately when you haven't lived in the same frame of reference as they did.

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#2085121 6-Sep-2018 16:06

Elon Musk is being a dick.

Unfortunately that sort of stuff does happen.

Both myself and my wife are in our 30's so our 7-year age gap is very acceptable by western standards.

But I have seen stuff in the Philippines that would make go "what the [expletive]?"

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