Notre Dame burns - Virtually destroyed.

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Topic # 248915 16-Apr-2019 07:55

Wow. What a catastrophe. 850 Years of history gone! 12 Million people visit this annually.

Doesn't look terror related.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12222681

Was fortunate enough to see it in 2017.

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Reply # 2217852 16-Apr-2019 08:18

Mayor was just saying they have recovered a lot of the artwork at least and they intend to rebuild it

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Reply # 2217866 16-Apr-2019 08:24

I bet that builder is going to be in the merde.

So sad - such a beautiful building. We were two of the 12 million last May. I see they are saying the firefighters don't think they'll be able to put it out.

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Reply # 2217867 16-Apr-2019 08:25

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We were lucky to visit the cathedral in 2007 (during the RWC, I guess this may be the same for many).

From The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/apr/15/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-paris-france-landmark-live-news

No guarantee Notre-Dame will be saved, authorities say.

The French deputy interior minister has said saving Notre-Dame “is not certain,” according to AFP.

It follows a similar announcement from French fire services moments before. They said they are “not sure” if the fire can be stopped.

A huge loss for France.

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Reply # 2217874 16-Apr-2019 08:33

Guessing that there are no fire sprinklers or other active fire suppression systems in that building.

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Reply # 2217877 16-Apr-2019 08:36

I was there last month, really sad to see, such an amazing building and history.

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Reply # 2217887 16-Apr-2019 08:47

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News saying a symbol of french culture and history and I'm thinking a symbol of selecting the cheapest contractor.

But seriously, this is something that happens happens regularly during renovation of old buildings. The fire risk is massive, and construction has a million potential ignition sources. Small fires even on normal construction sites are relatively common and probably underreported.

Fire risk management failure. All too common in historic renovations.

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Reply # 2217950 16-Apr-2019 09:22

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it is incredibly sad to see this historic building burn,

but Europe has significant experience in rebuilding ancient medieval buildings that have been gutted by fire.... I suspect this will be rebuilt, although it will take years if not decades..

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Reply # 2217953 16-Apr-2019 09:26

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wellygary:

it is incredibly sad to see this historic building burn,

but Europe has significant experience in rebuilding ancient medieval buildings that have been gutted by fire.... I suspect this will be rebuild, although it will take years if not decades..

Yep. I have a hunch it'll be back.

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Reply # 2217986 16-Apr-2019 10:13

Apparently the spire was rebuilt in the 19th century after Hugo wrote the hunchback book. The project used cheap stone that was already crumbling hence this reno.

As already mentioned building work and fires in old buildings seem so linked that you'd expect security/fire patrol on site.

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Reply # 2217989 16-Apr-2019 10:21

Crosses "Notre Dame cathedral" off bucket list.

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Reply # 2217991 16-Apr-2019 10:25

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Latest updates are saying the fire chief believes they've saved the towers and much of the main structure.

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Reply # 2218008 16-Apr-2019 10:43

Was there in 1980 on my OE. Fabulous building. For those interested here is Wiki's information including today's fire. Notre-Dame de Paris

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Reply # 2218056 16-Apr-2019 11:43

gzt: News saying a symbol of french culture and history and I'm thinking a symbol of selecting the cheapest contractor.

But seriously, this is something that happens happens regularly during renovation of old buildings. The fire risk is massive, and construction has a million potential ignition sources. Small fires even on normal construction sites are relatively common and probably underreported.

Fire risk management failure. All too common in historic renovations.

The French are big smokers and I bet French tradies are right up there.

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Reply # 2218059 16-Apr-2019 11:50

I doubt this was caused by smoking. Construction sites draw vandals like flies. It won't surprise me if it turns out to be arson. At best, an improvised electrical connection setting off some spilled solvent.

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Reply # 2218061 16-Apr-2019 11:53

kiwifidget:

Crosses "Notre Dame cathedral" off bucket list.

Depends how long you live I guess. I don't see it being rebuilt in my life time.

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