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# 248973 17-Apr-2019 22:22

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TV3 -You are running heavy advertising through the live broadcast of the benefit concert for the victims of the Chch Mosque shooting.

Are you donating the advertising revenue? If not, you should, because to make profit from their suffering would be morally reprehensible #TV3DonateAds

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# 2220282 18-Apr-2019 02:42

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It could be that they're not making a profit from the commercials and they're just meeting the costs of broadcasting a live production.

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# 2220302 18-Apr-2019 07:29

Were the ads blocking content or filling in gaps as the artists were preparing to change gigs or something like that ?

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# 2220308 18-Apr-2019 07:35

tdgeek:

Were the ads blocking content or filling in gaps as the artists were preparing to change gigs or something like that ?

Mostly this from what i was watching - occasionally the band would have started as they came back from a break, but that is probably due to there not being specific timing on changing bands equipment. Mike King would just riff between the bands

From memory ( I would have to check my SKy recording) there was only 1 or two standard ad breaks in the first hour

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# 2220316 18-Apr-2019 08:10

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There were heavy ads. For instance most of the nomads set was missed ... got half a song. Similarly don mcglashan.

The artists donated their time from what i heard. There were lots of complaints about the heavy advertising wrecking viewing on their FB page.

National radio ran an audio cast i hear ... delayed but no adverts.

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# 2220321 18-Apr-2019 08:24

Was at the concert, we had quite a few moments where Mike King was having to fill in time so the advertisements could run and tv coverage could start back up.

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# 2220324 18-Apr-2019 08:41

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I'd doubt the adverts would even get close to paying for the production costs of broadcasting such an event live.

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# 2220325 18-Apr-2019 08:42

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Was at the concert, we had quite a few moments where Mike King was having to fill in time so the advertisements could run and tv coverage could start back up.

Sounds messy. The bigger question is why this wasn't taken up by TVNZ as a special broadcast.

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# 2220960 19-Apr-2019 09:40

gzt:
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Was at the concert, we had quite a few moments where Mike King was having to fill in time so the advertisements could run and tv coverage could start back up.

Sounds messy. The bigger question is why this wasn't taken up by TVNZ as a special broadcast.

The qiestion gets bigger if special ads were run...the advertisers were trying to make coin on a charity event...thats also reprehensible.

The artists gave their time freely. So should other organisations.

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# 2221078 19-Apr-2019 11:59

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nunz:

The artists gave their time freely. So should other organisations.

So because some people wanted to give their time/money, everyone should be required to donate their time/money as well?

I'm sure all the people donating to causes you haven't donated to yet will be thrilled to hear you will be donating your time/money to their cause now. 🤣

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# 2221359 20-Apr-2019 08:17

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Let's be realistic, free to air tv in NZ reaches the standard of excellence achieved by the Herald and Stuff websites.

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# 2221373 20-Apr-2019 08:46

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I see some of you are pilling up without even knowing if the ad revenue was donated or not.

Of course it would be nice. But I don't think it would be required.

Here's an example... On the day of the shooting we had ads running on Geekzone. We had a good traffic on that day. I decided in the next morning to donate the ad revenue for that day to the Give a little Victim's Support page. I posted an announcement in the thread discussing the shooting - but if you are not in the politics sub-forum you wouldn't even know.

The question is really "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

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# 2221422 20-Apr-2019 11:37

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freitasm:

I see some of you are pilling up without even knowing if the ad revenue was donated or not.

Of course it would be nice. But I don't think it would be required.

Here's an example... On the day of the shooting we had ads running on Geekzone. We had a good traffic on that day. I decided in the next morning to donate the ad revenue for that day to the Give a little Victim's Support page. I posted an announcement in the thread discussing the shooting - but if you are not in the politics sub-forum you wouldn't even know.

The question is really "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

This here I'm a huge fan of, I don't advertise or tell people about donations or acts of kindness that I do, I don't need any kudos from others or for them to know what I've done or for me to know what others have done.

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# 2221455 20-Apr-2019 13:30

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Lias:

nunz:

The artists gave their time freely. So should other organisations.

So because some people wanted to give their time/money, everyone should be required to donate their time/money as well?

I'm sure all the people donating to causes you haven't donated to yet will be thrilled to hear you will be donating your time/money to their cause now. 🤣

Morality is a tricky subject but I'm reasonably sure that if a company knowingly made profit on the back of a tragedy then that would be considered unethical and frankly, odious at some level.

Unfortunately the very definition of making money out of other peoples' tragedy just about sums up the state of NZ reporting and press. Huey Lewis said it well "If it bleeds it leads." Sensationalism and doom mongering sells, which means much of the click bait, women's weakly, stuff headlines, MSN etc ,cruft we are deluged with, is literally making money by selling advertising space knowing others pain will bring in viewers.

The benefit concert was an awesome opportunity to sell product, there is a guaranteed large local audience and the live cast certainly wasn't shy in placing adverts. At some level that is odious as the concert is to help the victims of a massacre and those placing ads placed them to make money - therefore using others suffering as an opportunity to make profit.

Should TV3 have thrown in time and effort freely? Ethically - yes. Anything making a profit on the back of this event is odious.

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# 2221460 20-Apr-2019 13:38

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freitasm:

I see some of you are pilling up without even knowing if the ad revenue was donated or not.

Of course it would be nice. But I don't think it would be required.

Here's an example... On the day of the shooting we had ads running on Geekzone. We had a good traffic on that day. I decided in the next morning to donate the ad revenue for that day to the Give a little Victim's Support page. I posted an announcement in the thread discussing the shooting - but if you are not in the politics sub-forum you wouldn't even know.

The question is really "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

Well done. An ethical and generous stand. But I think the crux of your reply is "Of course it would be nice. But I don't think it would be required."

You are correct, it is not required - but neither are good manners, generosity and a raft of other things we claim to value - including inclusiveness and tolerance.

The original post asked if TV3 was making a profit- I think challenging corporations to consider their actions is one of the things that should fall out of the massacre discussions. If business knowingly makes a profit on the back of others suffering then they are dehumanizing people and seeing them as an opportunity, not valued lives. That sounds a lot like the attitude shown by a certain incarcerated individual who visited mosques a few weeks ago.

Rogernomics and monetary policy have become divorced from humanity in may ways. Profit, ideology, convenience are more important than the impact on individuals. It is one of the problems with our society - that leads to incidents like the massacre.

In NZ we desperately need to rekindle ethics, human values and community responsibility.

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# 2221464 20-Apr-2019 13:55

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TV3 have replied saying they will be donating the net profits from the advertising to the victim support fund.

I suspect the large amount of negative feed back re adverts may have prompted the response.

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