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JaseNZ

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#259794 22-Oct-2019 20:29
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I see firefighters have now given up on the roof fire as it cannot support them.

 

This building has been doomed from the very beginning.





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  #2342113 22-Oct-2019 21:31
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Only from actually standing on it to squirt it as seen in some aerial/high vantage shots.

 

They remain on the 2 floors under it, stopping it coming down while it burns out all the fuel (concrete, steel and the sealant tends to indicate it's likely fixable) between the void and make-safe

 

Kinda like a fire break in trees to allow a gap to access


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  #2342114 22-Oct-2019 21:37
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Guessing this is going to delay it even further....

 

 

 

Steel and fire are not a good mix, I hope it doesn't pancake  from the roof and floors above falling onto the floors below it if any steel fixings fail.


 
 
 
 


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  #2342115 22-Oct-2019 21:38
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apparently to apply roof water proof membrane you have to use a blow torch.

 

apparently the fire is thought to have something to do with the blow torch ....





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  #2342116 22-Oct-2019 21:39
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Rough break for those doing that project.. Would love to know how such a blaze started...

 

Had quite a view of it from the office, could see the flames jumping up and all. i pretty stupidly left the office going oh it will be all sorted by now!... but nope sadly still going.

 

 

 

The one thing that really had me puzzled is, why did they do the Public safety alarm so late. it just seemed a bit silly by the time it was actually activated.. 

 

 





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  #2342117 22-Oct-2019 21:40
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Oof, would not want to be the guy who left that blowtorch going (if that story is to be believed anyway, I imagine it could have started from a huge number of things on a construction site).


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  #2342118 22-Oct-2019 21:41
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Batman:

 

apparently to apply roof water proof membrane you have to use a blow torch.

 

 

 

 

There are different types of membrane type roofing. Some only require a glue under a rubber membrane, (often used on low pitch houses as well), which is what they used on the Christchurch town hall and lasted many decades.


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  #2342120 22-Oct-2019 21:43
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Batman:

 

apparently to apply roof water proof membrane you have to use a blow torch.

 

apparently the fire is thought to have something to do with the blow torch ....

 

Alleged :P

 

Not sure if you have heard one of those things, but they are rather loud and you would think someone would notice

 

https://youtu.be/4V1eri1k_cE?t=219

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2342121 22-Oct-2019 21:51
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It's a pity it wasn't the casino that burnt down.


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  #2342186 22-Oct-2019 22:49
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Either I wasn't watching the news this night, or this one went a but by the wayside. Happened to look into it shortly before the news of our own one come to light and immediately likened the possible outcomes

 

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2019/10/12/moment-when-hard-rock-hotel-construction-collapses/3960223002/

 

Today they demolished the cranes explosively to make-safe


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  #2342191 22-Oct-2019 23:17
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hio77:

 

The one thing that really had me puzzled is, why did they do the Public safety alarm so late. it just seemed a bit silly by the time it was actually activated.. 

 

 

Is my understanding correct - that those things are geographically targetted toward people who are already in the CBD? 'Cos, I mean, if you're in the CBD you would've already have noticed that something was up! Kinda pointless by that point to send a message saying "Hey, there's a fire and it's smokey outside and the traffic is really bad, so uhh just fyi"


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  #2342193 22-Oct-2019 23:19
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Oblivian:

 

Alleged :P

 

Not sure if you have heard one of those things, but they are rather loud and you would think someone would notice

 

https://youtu.be/4V1eri1k_cE?t=219

 

 

Notice however that when he lets off the trigger, there is still flame coming out of the torch. Perhaps the dude thought that flame was extinguished or he was distracted by something and put it down when it was still quietly flaming away?


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  #2342196 22-Oct-2019 23:31
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Journeyman:

 

hio77:

 

The one thing that really had me puzzled is, why did they do the Public safety alarm so late. it just seemed a bit silly by the time it was actually activated.. 

 

 

Is my understanding correct - that those things are geographically targetted toward people who are already in the CBD? 'Cos, I mean, if you're in the CBD you would've already have noticed that something was up! Kinda pointless by that point to send a message saying "Hey, there's a fire and it's smokey outside and the traffic is really bad, so uhh just fyi"

 

 

the Notification was sent at 6.41pm. while the event started about 1ish?

 

i feel that's a little late for a public safety message?

 

 

 

Nothing against the message itself, it was all saying the right things, warning of smoke inhalation etc. 





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  #2342238 23-Oct-2019 07:29
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tardtasticx: Oof, would not want to be the guy who left that blowtorch going (if that story is to be believed anyway, I imagine it could have started from a huge number of things on a construction site).

 

While a blowtorch may have been the cause, the real cause was the lack of a fire extinguisher. There would have to be an OSH rule about using an open flame on an inflammable item on a construction site, to have an extinguisher handy. Its like many air crashes, the direct cause is ok as there are processes to capture it, but when that fails.....


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  #2342240 23-Oct-2019 07:38
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Does anyone know if the roads are closed this morning?

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  #2342242 23-Oct-2019 07:48
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gzt: Does anyone know if the roads are closed this morning?


I expect so. Lots of feeder hoses

❗️UPDATE 7: Fire in Auckland CBD

Overnight, the fire continued to burn through the roof.

There are currently 26 appliances working to fight the fire.

People are reminded to stay away from the immediate area.

For information about road closures, follow Auckland Transport.
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