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#268312 12-Mar-2020 00:10
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If anyone knows of how to get some native bird enticing plants fast to grow or someone selling pre grown or want something manageable in Auck transplanted let me know.

The Mrs is a double PHD SC, works with everything from native grasses to our endangered fresh water fish, also known as whitebait to those that dont give a ....

I have a prime spot for a kowhai if anyone knows of someone selling, up to 2m is manageable to transplant. South garden wall, lots of sunlight in the afternoons. We have the most beautiful big Pohutukawa (although leaves are a pain) on one side with lovely mood lighting and garden solar lighting, looks awesome at night and the ocean on the front side.

It is Kererū Im really after, they are in the bush down the road, along with the rare saddle back. But whatever I can get in north of Auck the better. But its VERY dry here this year.


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  #2436572 12-Mar-2020 05:12
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have you looked at any of the major nursery sites around Auckland?


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  #2436575 12-Mar-2020 06:01
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[URL]http://www.nhbigtrees.co.nz/detail.php?tree_species=Native&id=165[URL=]





 
 
 
 


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  #2436579 12-Mar-2020 06:43
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  #2436581 12-Mar-2020 06:53
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eracode:

http://www.nhbigtrees.co.nz/detail.php?tree_species=Native&id=165


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  #2436589 12-Mar-2020 07:43
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A friend of mine works for https://www.kaipatiki.org.nz/ and I know they have seedlings for sale, I dont know about 2m trees.

 

It will be worth going to see them and they will be able to advise what is best to plant to attract different native birds.

 

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  #2436595 12-Mar-2020 08:06
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It really depends on having a neighbourhood of trees. Your tree will get raided as soon as it is in flower then the tui will go next door. Having a series of different trees and plants like flax that are on at different times helps. Locally the biggest attraction are fast growing Banksia from Aus.

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  #2436608 12-Mar-2020 08:29
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It sounds like Mrs Leaf might have the qualifications to know about native birds and trees.

 

If not, a minute or two on google will tell you, for example, what trees attract kererū.

 

Here’s a starter for ten:

 

https://kererudiscovery.org.nz/get-involved/top-ten/





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  #2436612 12-Mar-2020 08:43
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Have you tried Awa Nurseries in Muriwai? 

 

 

 

Last time I was there they had some large specimens...was a while ago though. 

 

 

 

https://www.awanursery.co.nz/product-category/native-plants-trees/





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Are you sure you want to? I used to love Tuis and their songs, calls, etc. We have a very large pohutukawa in our backyard, and other large trees around the neighbourhood including cherry trees which they seem to like, so get quite a few.   Then last summer one moved into the neighbourhood that seemed to only know a single song that consisted of 2 monotonous notes repeated endlessly. It sang this song for weeks on end, hours every day, very loudly, often late in the evening or extremely early in the morning (think 3-4am)   I still like Tuis but by the end of it I was about ready to climb the tree myself and throttle the little a*shole... just beware what you wish for lol  🤣





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  #2436829 12-Mar-2020 14:10
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Very much what @sidefx said.
For several years we had 2 in the neighbourhood. The same 2 - 3 notes over and over and over again.
It is amazing how fast listening to the same notes over and over again will make you wish for bad things to happen to said source of noise.




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  #2437060 12-Mar-2020 17:36
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djtOtago:

 

Very much what @sidefx said.
For several years we had 2 in the neighbourhood. The same 2 - 3 notes over and over and over again.
It is amazing how fast listening to the same notes over and over again will make you wish for bad things to happen to said source of noise.

 



Tuis? Tuis dont make the same notes hehe :-). They in fact mimic other birds. they have the highest level of vocabulary possible. Personally I cannot get enough of them. I have 3-4 regulars at any given time, but would like 8 or so.

From Wiki "Tui have a complex variety of songs and calls, much like parrots. They also resemble parrots in their ability to clearly imitate human speech, and were trained by Māori to replicate complex speech. ... Watching a tui sing, one can observe gaps in the sound when the beak is agape and throat tufts throbbing"

The cats on the other hand I would like to do humane but not so friendly things to. On the plus side living near a predator proof area, they neighbours have put bells on all the cats Ive seen so far, but tired of their poop in our not so cheap gardens.

We have a local Ruru which is awesome at night as reminds me of camping in the bush in the far north of Coromandel in the early 70s. Some people do get it confused with Euro pigeons in the morning. But Id like to entice him or another to our big tree.

Its more a case on finding nurseries that can supply Tree sized plants for Kereru, I know what they eat (fruits from native trees). But they also love Kowhais.

Thank you to everyone who found nurseries with the varieties of Kowhai at 2-3m size, I think 2-3 of these is what Im after. I REALLY appreciate you all. http://www.nhbigtrees.co.nz/detail.php?tree_species=Native&id=165 this could be a winner though. Cheap as chips.

I don't know why but when I posted this last night I had spent 30 mins on google and could not find a single nursery with tree size plants.




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  #2437064 12-Mar-2020 17:39
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I have Pohutukawa, Flax, Cabbage,Makomako (but could use another for the Woodies, so a couple of Kowhais and maybe another native fruit/flowerer will top it off nicely.

Unfortunately the neighbour has a gastly pine tree thats starting to develop a thick branch over my fence and into my Pohutukawa. Am I within my rights to just lop the branch off? Ive seen where prior owner has done so to other gastly branches. Im sure it must obstruct peopls views over our house to the ocean. I wonder, if I paid him to remove it if he would go for it. Worth a try.....


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  #2437068 12-Mar-2020 17:49
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We have had several lots of large trees supplied by NH Big Trees. They’re great to deal with and will deliver (for modest fee) and plant them too if you want. The last lot we got was four 2.5m native karaka and from memory it was $40/tree for planting - and they took away all the spoil. Given our particular circumstances, I thought that was a bargain. The hole required for the root-ball of a 2.5m tree can be quite substantial.





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  #2437075 12-Mar-2020 17:55
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SATTV:

 

A friend of mine works for https://www.kaipatiki.org.nz/ and I know they have seedlings for sale, I dont know about 2m trees.

 

 

Thanks John. I suggest anyone who owns their property get into this, it is WELL worth us all replanting some of the 95% of deforestation in the last century in NZ, total disgrace Im so glad the council is on top of it now. The Mrs when not chasing fish or on offshore islands working with birds or Geckos etc manages GIS projects to help preventing what this project is trying to rectify, people just tearing up Native Flora just because they "think" they own the land they should be able to do what they want.

I might actually speak to a mate and see what they have got at the moment, generally speaking they are more Juvenille flora, but you are not spending $200 per plant either (which to me is cheap considering the benefits we get from a native bush garden). Some of their native shrubs could be a gower, we will unlikely get Geckos as its a long way for them to migrate passed evil cats which will just get them once here anyway.




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  #2437077 12-Mar-2020 17:58
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eracode:

 

We have had several lots of large trees supplied NH Big Trees. They’re great to deal with and will deliver (for modest fee) and plant them too. The last lot we got was four 2.5m native karaka and from memory it was $40/tree for planting - and they took away all the spoil. Given our particular circumstances, I thought that was a bargain. The hole required for the root-ball of a 2.5m tree can be quite substantial.

 



Choice one mate. That seals the deal. I two of those rotating mulch bins which produce ready compost on one side and new bio waste on the other. Well worth the $300 each considering the cost of compost and the cost here for it to be taken away as land fill as 40% of waste is compostable.

So i have the right nutrients ready for the trees


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