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JaseNZ

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#272321 19-Jun-2020 15:07

Must be a pretty big and targeted attack for them to be putting this out to the media.

Probably has been going on for some time.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300038257/australia-under-cyber-attack-says-prime-minister-scott-morrison

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#2508237 19-Jun-2020 15:41

Despite the Aussie government refusing to name names, ABC News is reporting it is Chinese state sponsored hackers.

Believable considering how relationships between the two countries are at the moment.
But who knows what the full story really is and why it is seen as so bad as to go public?

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#2508249 19-Jun-2020 16:04

They need to treat state sponsered cyber attacks the same as as if were a bombing raid. Aussie needs to respond with a strike back on the state that is responsible assets.

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#2508261 19-Jun-2020 16:28

cruxis:

They need to treat state sponsered cyber attacks the same as as if were a bombing raid. Aussie needs to respond with a strike back on the state that is responsible assets.

A strongly worded email in CAPITALS :)

I'm not a complete idiot, I still have some parts missing.

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#2508266 19-Jun-2020 16:38

cruxis:
They need to treat state sponsered cyber attacks the same as as if were a bombing raid. Aussie needs to respond with a strike back on the state that is responsible assets.

How do you suggest they do that? Invade Shenzhen?

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#2508319 19-Jun-2020 18:28

It will be fine we all know that they won't get in because of the crappy NBN, it just doesn't have the capacity, and if they do get in, well the NBN will probably fall over.

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#2508534 20-Jun-2020 00:50

I'd really like to see more details. My level of trust in anything Scotty Morrison says is pretty low.

I don't have any personal feeling of dislike for Morrison. My trust level is the accumulated effect of his Trump relationship and the whole bush fires response & Hawaiian holiday thing.

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#2508566 20-Jun-2020 08:36

gzt: I'd really like to see more details. My level of trust in anything Scotty Morrison says is pretty low.

I don't have any personal feeling of dislike for Morrison. My trust level is the accumulated effect of his Trump relationship and the whole bush fires response & Hawaiian holiday thing.

You are ascribing to Mr Morrison the quality of assessing, interpreting and disseminating messaging that suits a purpose other than to describe this situation. Personally I believe Mr Morrison of simply passing on what he has been told by 'cybersecurity experts' within his government. Mr Morrison is not capable of doing anything more than this, on this subject.

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#2508580 20-Jun-2020 09:35

Australian departments are routinely audited for cyber readiness. Most fail

The cyber attack announced yesterday is only successful against organisations that have not applied existing software updates — and the main vulnerability exploited has been known about for over a year.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/australian-departments-routinely-audited-for-cyber-readiness/12375050

Edit: formatting

ezbee

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#2508595 20-Jun-2020 10:11

So this is supposed to make Australia more comfortable with having more communications infrastructure built by said state actors largest companies ?

Hmmm....

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#2508619 20-Jun-2020 11:17

If this is the way someone reacts to missing out on a tender, you can be sure you made the right decision to exclude them in the first place.

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#2508671 20-Jun-2020 11:38

dafman: If this is the way someone reacts to missing out on a tender, you can be sure you made the right decision to exclude them in the first place.

That's a very long bow to draw. That possibility seems entirely counter productive.

ezbee

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#2513041 26-Jun-2020 16:30

From Cyber attacks to real world influence peddling perhaps.
Aussie has had long running issues , dodgy donations, cash in paper bags and all that stuff, now this.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53188553 Just today .....

""
An Australian lawmaker is to be suspended from his party following reports his office is facing investigation by national security agencies over alleged links to China.

Authorities raided the home and office of Shaoquett Moselmane, a New South Wales state politician, on Friday.

Police and intelligence agencies said it involved an "ongoing investigation", but did not give further details.
""

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#2513097 26-Jun-2020 16:52

Hmm... so only unpatched services are affected... they sold a bunch of their utilities etc to china.. coincidence? #conspiracy!

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#2513258 26-Jun-2020 20:41

PolicyGuy:

Australian departments are routinely audited for cyber readiness. Most fail

The cyber attack announced yesterday is only successful against organisations that have not applied existing software updates — and the main vulnerability exploited has been known about for over a year.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/australian-departments-routinely-audited-for-cyber-readiness/12375050

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That's just the federal government. State governments are no better - when they bother to actually audit, let alone patch.

Handle9:

How do you suggest they do that? Invade Shenzhen?

Nah, invade Sydney.

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#2513261 26-Jun-2020 20:49

gzt: I'd really like to see more details. My level of trust in anything Scotty Morrison says is pretty low.

I don't have any personal feeling of dislike for Morrison. My trust level is the accumulated effect of his Trump relationship and the whole bush fires response & Hawaiian holiday thing.

My trust level of anything Scotty from Marketing says is even lower, the accumulated effect of living here. At least I can say I voted for Jacinda Ardern.

BlinkyBill:

You are ascribing to Mr Morrison the quality of assessing, interpreting and disseminating messaging that suits a purpose other than to describe this situation. Personally I believe Mr Morrison of simply passing on what he has been told by 'cybersecurity experts' within his government. Mr Morrison is not capable of doing anything more than this, on this subject.

Unfortunately, I believe you may be quite naive. The Coalition wouldn't disseminate information unless it met their purposes. On the subject of COVID-19 for example, "Mr Morrison" disseminates opinions that going to the footy is perfectly safe. Further discourse on this topic would quite squarely put it into the realm of the politics forum though.

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