Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


tripp

3848 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1220

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

#280209 2-Dec-2020 16:10
Send private message

Hi all

 

I don't have access to premium on nzherald but from the small amount i can see it seems like a lot of the "premium news" stories are just a copy and paste from other free news sites.

 

Example

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/trump-has-discussed-with-advisers-pardons-for-his-three-eldest-children-and-giuliani/J5N3TE56Z2DZK27VK4SQPYK2KY/

 

 

 

Copied from 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-pardon.html

 

 

 

If this is the case isn't this just a bit of a p*ss take from NZHerald?


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
Linux
12360 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 8650

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2614847 2-Dec-2020 16:16
Send private message

That is what I have found as well




l43a2
1784 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 591

ID Verified
Trusted

  #2614851 2-Dec-2020 16:19
Send private message

they likely have a sharing agreement, not all NYT content is free, they only give you so much.

 

 






Senecio
2881 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3199

ID Verified
Lifetime subscriber

  #2614854 2-Dec-2020 16:25
Send private message

Wasn't that one of their selling points when they went subscription based. Access to all NZ Herald premium content plus content from partner sites?




tripp

3848 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1220

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2614867 2-Dec-2020 16:31
Send private message

Senecio:

 

Wasn't that one of their selling points when they went subscription based. Access to all NZ Herald premium content plus content from partner sites?

 

 

Which i don't have an issue with but putting it behind a pay wall when it's available to view online in full is another story.  I would a little bit mad if i signed up to read a story only to find out its the same story from another site that i could have seen for free.

 

 

 

Anyway my 2 cents.


sbiddle
30853 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9998

Retired Mod
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  #2614987 2-Dec-2020 21:01
Send private message

The NYT is not a free site - it has a paywall and restrictions on free articles.

 

The whole point of the premium was to aggregate a lot of high quality content from paywalled news sites from around the world.. but it's hard to find it between all the news.com.au clickbait on their site.

 

 


snnet
1413 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 556


  #2615115 2-Dec-2020 21:18
Send private message

Does anyone know if you can cancel the nz herald premium online now? I would sign up for it now and then if I knew I didn't have to ring them to cancel it and be interrogated


 
 
 

Support Geekzone with one-off or recurring donations Donate via PressPatron.
quickymart
15110 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 14315

ID Verified

  #2615117 2-Dec-2020 21:30
Send private message

I just Google the headlines for any Premium stories I want to see, and it takes me to the parent site I can read it from.

 

So, do they just copy and paste? Yes.


Lias
5673 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3990

ID Verified
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2615277 3-Dec-2020 08:02
Send private message

*cough*iamadamdev*cough*





I'm a geek, a gamer, a dad, a Quic user, and an IT Professional. I have a full rack home lab, size 15 feet, an epic beard and Asperger's. I'm a bit of a Cypherpunk, who believes information wants to be free and the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. If you use my Quic signup you can also use the code R570394EKGIZ8 for free setup. Opinions are my own and not the views of my employer.


jasonbug
50 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 14
Inactive user


  #2615283 3-Dec-2020 08:20
Send private message

Lias:

 

*cough*iamadamdev*cough*

 



Reporting aside, implementing a paywall with css doesn't give much confidence in what the herald are doing.


Geektastic
18021 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 8480

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2615494 3-Dec-2020 12:06
Send private message

This newspaper tried cut and paste to gain traffic! You won’t believe what happened!





Lias
5673 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3990

ID Verified
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2615840 3-Dec-2020 18:36
Send private message

For all the Heralds _many_ flaws, I genuinely think it's better than Stuff by a decent margin these days.





I'm a geek, a gamer, a dad, a Quic user, and an IT Professional. I have a full rack home lab, size 15 feet, an epic beard and Asperger's. I'm a bit of a Cypherpunk, who believes information wants to be free and the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. If you use my Quic signup you can also use the code R570394EKGIZ8 for free setup. Opinions are my own and not the views of my employer.


 
 
 
 

Shop now for Lego sets and other gifts (affiliate link).
Handle9
12082 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9912

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2615842 3-Dec-2020 18:46
Send private message

The byline says it's from the New York Times. How is that taking the p*ss?


Geektastic
18021 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 8480

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2615864 3-Dec-2020 19:50
Send private message

Lias:

For all the Heralds _many_ flaws, I genuinely think it's better than Stuff by a decent margin these days.



So is Whizzer & Chips!!





Oblivian
7374 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2143

ID Verified

  #2616306 4-Dec-2020 12:47
Send private message

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-facebook-says-it-will-remove-vaccine-misinformation/SCF5OWBSRSGLUMDXHR7OVAFJ4M/ source - NYT

 

Radio NZ has done the same, with same article. But via BBC (and a little reworded)

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/covid-19/432091/facebook-to-take-down-false-covid-19-vaccine-claims 

 

 

 

So yep. Google the opening phrases, normally not paywall stuff. Just a consolidator. 


nova
262 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 146

Trusted

  #2616317 4-Dec-2020 13:13
Send private message

snnet:

 

Does anyone know if you can cancel the nz herald premium online now? I would sign up for it now and then if I knew I didn't have to ring them to cancel it and be interrogated

 

 

No, you can't cancel online. You also can't cancel by email, I tried, and they sent an email back saying that I had to ring up to cancel. This was despite their page saying:

 

 

 

"Digital subscriptions renew automatically. To make any changes to your subscription please call us on 0800 100 888 or email subscriptions@nzherald.co.nz and our team will be pleased to assist you"

 

 

 

I'm not quite sure what other changes I can make to my subscription outside of cancelling. But when I called they at least answered the phone promptly, and offered 12 weeks for $1 / week, which is close to the black friday deal, but not quite as good.


 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic








Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.