nzherald premium just a copy and paste?

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#280209 2-Dec-2020 16:10

Hi all

I don't have access to premium on nzherald but from the small amount i can see it seems like a lot of the "premium news" stories are just a copy and paste from other free news sites.

Example

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/trump-has-discussed-with-advisers-pardons-for-his-three-eldest-children-and-giuliani/J5N3TE56Z2DZK27VK4SQPYK2KY/

Copied from

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-pardon.html

If this is the case isn't this just a bit of a p*ss take from NZHerald?

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#2614847 2-Dec-2020 16:16

That is what I have found as well

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#2614851 2-Dec-2020 16:19

they likely have a sharing agreement, not all NYT content is free, they only give you so much.

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#2614854 2-Dec-2020 16:25

Wasn't that one of their selling points when they went subscription based. Access to all NZ Herald premium content plus content from partner sites?

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#2614867 2-Dec-2020 16:31

Senecio:

Wasn't that one of their selling points when they went subscription based. Access to all NZ Herald premium content plus content from partner sites?

Which i don't have an issue with but putting it behind a pay wall when it's available to view online in full is another story. I would a little bit mad if i signed up to read a story only to find out its the same story from another site that i could have seen for free.

Anyway my 2 cents.

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#2614987 2-Dec-2020 21:01

The NYT is not a free site - it has a paywall and restrictions on free articles.

The whole point of the premium was to aggregate a lot of high quality content from paywalled news sites from around the world.. but it's hard to find it between all the news.com.au clickbait on their site.

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#2615115 2-Dec-2020 21:18

Does anyone know if you can cancel the nz herald premium online now? I would sign up for it now and then if I knew I didn't have to ring them to cancel it and be interrogated

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#2615117 2-Dec-2020 21:30

I just Google the headlines for any Premium stories I want to see, and it takes me to the parent site I can read it from.

So, do they just copy and paste? Yes.

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#2615283 3-Dec-2020 08:20

Lias:

*cough*iamadamdev*cough*

Reporting aside, implementing a paywall with css doesn't give much confidence in what the herald are doing.

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#2615494 3-Dec-2020 12:06

This newspaper tried cut and paste to gain traffic! You won’t believe what happened!

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#2615840 3-Dec-2020 18:36

For all the Heralds _many_ flaws, I genuinely think it's better than Stuff by a decent margin these days.

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#2615842 3-Dec-2020 18:46

The byline says it's from the New York Times. How is that taking the p*ss?

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#2615864 3-Dec-2020 19:50

Lias:
For all the Heralds _many_ flaws, I genuinely think it's better than Stuff by a decent margin these days.

So is Whizzer & Chips!!

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#2616306 4-Dec-2020 12:47

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-facebook-says-it-will-remove-vaccine-misinformation/SCF5OWBSRSGLUMDXHR7OVAFJ4M/ source - NYT

Radio NZ has done the same, with same article. But via BBC (and a little reworded)

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/covid-19/432091/facebook-to-take-down-false-covid-19-vaccine-claims

So yep. Google the opening phrases, normally not paywall stuff. Just a consolidator.

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#2616317 4-Dec-2020 13:13

snnet:

Does anyone know if you can cancel the nz herald premium online now? I would sign up for it now and then if I knew I didn't have to ring them to cancel it and be interrogated

No, you can't cancel online. You also can't cancel by email, I tried, and they sent an email back saying that I had to ring up to cancel. This was despite their page saying:

"Digital subscriptions renew automatically. To make any changes to your subscription please call us on 0800 100 888 or email subscriptions@nzherald.co.nz and our team will be pleased to assist you"

I'm not quite sure what other changes I can make to my subscription outside of cancelling. But when I called they at least answered the phone promptly, and offered 12 weeks for $1 / week, which is close to the black friday deal, but not quite as good.

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