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#302447 24-Nov-2022 10:04
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Interesting move by Supermarkets to reduce theft, but personally I'm not happy with Supermarkets using my own biometric information or that of my Children.

 

It appears to be legal, but there doesn't appear to be an opt-out mechanism

 

Now... without my biometric information how would they know it was me?

 

Well I suggest a BTLE tag or similar that means the cameras can't capture when an person who has opted out is in the sore.

 

Thoughts?





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  #3000749 24-Nov-2022 10:09
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Quote: It appears to be legal, but there doesn't appear to be an opt-out mechanism

 

 

 

Don't shop there?




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  #3000750 24-Nov-2022 10:15
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Wear a disguise?





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  #3000751 24-Nov-2022 10:17
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Does it work if you wear a mask?




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  #3000756 24-Nov-2022 10:26
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johno1234:https://www.amazon.com/Accoutrements-Fuzzy-Glasses-Classic-Disguise/dp/B000JNS2ZS?th=1 Will this do the trick?

 

Until someone else commits a crime wearing the same disguise.....then you are a suspect! (Do you use electronic means to pay? Use Cash and always wear gloves etc?)


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  #3000757 24-Nov-2022 10:31
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Shop online and get delivery.




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  #3000759 24-Nov-2022 10:34
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openmedia:

 

Interesting move by Supermarkets to reduce theft, but personally I'm not happy with Supermarkets using my own biometric information or that of my Children.

 

It appears to be legal, but there doesn't appear to be an opt-out mechanism

 

Now... without my biometric information how would they know it was me?

 

Well I suggest a BTLE tag or similar that means the cameras can't capture when an person who has opted out is in the sore.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Wouldn't the very people they are looking to identify also "opt out" with a tag thereby completely defeating the purpose?

 

 


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  #3000768 24-Nov-2022 10:49
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I am really interested in setting something up outside the house. Is there standardization of the biometric hash for different software in use ? To create a database of shopliftiing dirtbags to share between the local diarys. Something that alerts the shopkeeper when a possible dirtbag enters the store and be on watch.

 

I have been meaning to try out facial regonition and capture people who come up my driveway. Is there any decent Docker containers out there?


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  #3000771 24-Nov-2022 10:51
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The supermarket will let it be known (probably using small, hard-to-read print under a sign saying "Facial recognition in operation") that entering the store is an implicit agreement to the use of this technology. Most people will grumble, and then forget about it, if the experience in the UK is anything to go by.

 

I think very few people will actually make much of an effort to shop elsewhere.





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  #3000774 24-Nov-2022 11:07
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sen8or:

 

Wouldn't the very people they are looking to identify also "opt out" with a tag thereby completely defeating the purpose?

 

Absolutely. Any opt out option would defeat the purpose.

 

Arguments can be made for and against this, but I'm not a fan of the idea of my biometric data being collected by third parties. Even the likes of Apple and Microsoft don't collect this (according to them), as it remains local to your device.

 

And whatever the initial intent of this is, you know it will be used for profiling/advertising and many other purposes as well. And if it's OK for supermarkets, then why not have it everywhere? Slippery slope.


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  #3000778 24-Nov-2022 11:19
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I guess it would be easy for them to de-anonymize this biometric data too, which is the part I am uncomfortable about.   You go to the checkout and scan your loyalty card - bingo they now know who you are and can match you to your digital biometric fingerprint.


 
 
 

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  #3000782 24-Nov-2022 11:30
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Some malls and other public locations have been using facial recognition in cameras in their advertising boards for a while. Some petrol stations and others have been, too, and a range of other retailers. Not really a new thing.


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  #3000793 24-Nov-2022 11:56
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The anti-facial recognition fashion statement (freethink.com)

 

(By some reports, it doesn't seem to work anyway).





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  #3000801 24-Nov-2022 12:22
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Three things immediately come to mind with this...

 

1. It will be abused

 

2. It will be abused

 

3. It will be abused





Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.


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  #3000802 24-Nov-2022 12:29
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Shocker-It's in a lot more places than just supermarkets....

 

Source, we install it.

 

You can opt out by not entering the establishment.  By walking over the threshold, you consent.  Data retention though, whole other can of worms





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