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#304608 20-May-2023 13:24
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Glenfield Mall Michael Hill Jewellers robbery: Shoppers terrified as offenders smash cabinets, take jewellery - NZ Herald

 

So smash and grabs are a common thing these days, but Michael Hill Jeweller are a prime target.. why ?

 

Because their store layout is a joke. Its open, and easy for someone to run in, smash, and go again. Fog cannons don't do squat in these stores due to them being so open. 

 

MHJ really need to assess their open plan policy if they want to stop losing stock......

 

 





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  #3078048 20-May-2023 14:21
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easier said than done in most instances.

 

The takapuna branch wasnt open plan as it was on huestmare road yet they still got hit and i believe are now closed




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  #3078055 20-May-2023 15:05
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Walked pass it only under an hour ago right mess

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  #3078057 20-May-2023 15:14
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xpd:

 

Glenfield Mall Michael Hill Jewellers robbery: Shoppers terrified as offenders smash cabinets, take jewellery - NZ Herald

 

So smash and grabs are a common thing these days, but Michael Hill Jeweller are a prime target.. why ?

 

Because their store layout is a joke. Its open, and easy for someone to run in, smash, and go again. Fog cannons don't do squat in these stores due to them being so open. 

 

MHJ really need to assess their open plan policy if they want to stop losing stock......

 

A classic case of 'blame the victim'.  The issue is not store layout but the fact that crimes like this are committed now when they were not in the past.  MHJ will always consider their options.  They might well consider revamping store layout but a better option may simply be to close this store.





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  #3078094 20-May-2023 17:00
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xpd:

 

Because their store layout is a joke. Its open, and easy for someone to run in, smash, and go again. Fog cannons don't do squat in these stores due to them being so open. 

 

MHJ really need to assess their open plan policy if they want to stop losing stock......

 

 

 

 

I know your post was well intentioned to start some discussion, but that's just victim blaming.  Any retail shop should not have to lock themselves up like fort knox.   How about we finally deal with the causes of this crime and some consequences for the offenders.  





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  #3078095 20-May-2023 17:03
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scuwp:

 

I know your post was well intentioned to start some discussion, but that's just victim blaming.  Any retail shop should not have to lock themselves up like fort knox.   How about we finally deal with the causes of this crime and some consequences for the offenders.  

 

 

Well over a year of daily+ violence/attacks, robberies, smashes and grabs. If only we had an organization overseen by an elected governing body we could bring to bear who would be responsible for preventing crime and putting an end to this madness....


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  #3078106 20-May-2023 18:41
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networkn:

 

Well over a year of daily+ violence/attacks, robberies, smashes and grabs. If only we had an organization overseen and adequately resourced and funded by an elected governing body we could bring to bear who would be responsible for preventing crime and putting an end to this madness....

 

 

FTFY





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  #3078122 20-May-2023 19:30
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I wonder why they don’t use a special film on the glass cases or make them acrylic which you can’t just smash and grab. Even using glass with plastic in between would make it difficult.

I feel especially great pity for the little corner dairies that get attacked over and over. Decent hardworking family people who work hard and long now risking their lives to make a living.

The fact that there are no consequences just encourages these criminals more.

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  #3078182 20-May-2023 21:45
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OldGeek:

A classic case of 'blame the victim'.  The issue is not store layout but the fact that crimes like this are committed now when they were not in the past.

 

 

This one was also an unusually brazen attack, this isn't a store with street frontage, it's buried deep inside the Glenfield mall where you have to zizag through the inside of the mall and up or down at least one lot of escalators to get out in either direction, and even then you're in a parking lot that requires more zigzagging and going up or down ramps to get out of. It's not really a place you'd expect to get robbed.

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  #3078183 20-May-2023 21:49
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neb:
OldGeek:

 

A classic case of 'blame the victim'.  The issue is not store layout but the fact that crimes like this are committed now when they were not in the past.

 

This one was also an unusually brazen attack, this isn't a store with street frontage, it's buried deep inside the Glenfield mall where you have to zizag through the inside of the mall and up or down at least one lot of escalators to get out in either direction, and even then you're in a parking lot that requires more zigzagging and going up or down ramps to get out of. It's not really a place you'd expect to get robbed.

 

 

 

This one in Sydney was orchestrated. 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/may/09/high-end-sydney-jeweller-accused-of-allegedly-orchestrating-heist-in-his-own-store

 

 


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  #3078184 20-May-2023 21:50
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Dingbatt:

networkn:


Well over a year of daily+ violence/attacks, robberies, smashes and grabs. If only we had an organization overseen and adequately resourced and funded by an elected governing body we could bring to bear who would be responsible for preventing crime and putting an end to this madness....



FTFY



I mean, imagine if our elected representatives were ensuring such a thing!

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  #3078191 20-May-2023 23:18
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Fog canons should be loaded with bright pink non-washable liquid, making the perps easily recognised.

Sure, it will make a mess of the shops initially, but making the perps easily tracked would eventually lessen future discharges..


 
 
 

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  #3078192 20-May-2023 23:30
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SepticSceptic: Fog canons should be loaded with bright pink non-washable liquid, making the perps easily recognised.

Sure, it will make a mess of the shops initially, but making the perps easily tracked would eventually lessen future discharges..



Love the idea but what about the people chasing the crims getting bright pinked.

Admittedly I dream of people carrying loaded paint pistols with permanent bright yellow paint to squirt these people in the head so they are marked for many months. This type of weapon if available should be encouraged.

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  #3078194 21-May-2023 00:15
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Crime in NZ is getting a lot worse. The head of briscoes was discussing this a few days ago and he said he had never seen things so bad. Shrinkage is at record levels.

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  #3078197 21-May-2023 07:13
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I know that shop and it had a guard in place when I walked past the other day. He looked quite tough too, but I suppose if you have three thugs coming at you at once, it's no contest 😟

 

I hope they catch the thugs that did this as soon as possible and they get what they deserve.


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  #3078199 21-May-2023 07:19
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They won't get get what they deserve! It will be some restorative meeting or whatever they call it! Blame the system or blame something that happened 300 years ago


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