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#315220 24-Jun-2024 09:47

Inspired by this and so as to not derail that thread.

Hypothetically, assuming that you had sufficient funds and the law allowed it, would you live in an armed and or armoured residence?

Whether it be pits of sharpened stakes, cages of monkeys, land mines, sentry turrets, or "home alone" style booby traps, would you? Why? Why not? If you would, what would you do/build?

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#3252337 24-Jun-2024 10:00

I don't think so. One question I'd have, could any of these measures endanger me.
For example, could intruders gain access to my weapons to make any home invasion even more dangerous for myself.
Could my "fortress" could become a trap that I can't escape, one that would prevent others from rescuing me.

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#3252340 24-Jun-2024 10:11

Monkeys are no use in cages. Ya gotta let them out to roam the property and throw poo at any intruders.

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#3252355 24-Jun-2024 11:04

If you had the money why wouldn’t you move somewhere else? Living in a fortress assumes that you'd have to take precautions all the time moving anywhere outside.

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#3252356 24-Jun-2024 11:06

I just watched the YouTube video linked on the previous thread, and the irony is the pre-roll ad talking about "protection"

Why bother with an armed fortress if I can use this deodorant for "advanced protection"?

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#3252380 24-Jun-2024 11:25

https://youtu.be/oLnLN4YnSSY?si=CtEWAFMwzESWuny-

need a trunk monkey for the house.

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#3252384 24-Jun-2024 11:34

Lias:

Inspired by this and so as to not derail that thread.

Hypothetically, assuming that you had sufficient funds and the law allowed it, would you live in an armed and or armoured residence?

Whether it be pits of sharpened stakes, cages of monkeys, land mines, sentry turrets, or "home alone" style booby traps, would you? Why? Why not? If you would, what would you do/build?

no real issue with it, however i would forget about and accidently set it off myself. bit of a major downside. so i would advice against it.

but of course nz is so woke that if such a system actually stopped an intruder, you would be dragged through the courts and punished. self defense may be legal, but that doesn't stop them punishing you for doing so.

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#3252392 24-Jun-2024 11:45

johno1234: Monkeys are no use in cages. Ya gotta let them out to roam the property and throw poo at any intruders.

Murderous Poop-Monkeys would be amazing, right up until they decided to rip your face off, for the lols.

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#3252499 24-Jun-2024 13:32

Lias:

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Hypothetically, assuming that you had sufficient funds and the law allowed it, would you live in an armed and or armoured residence?

Whether it be pits of sharpened stakes, cages of monkeys, land mines, sentry turrets, or "home alone" style booby traps, would you? Why? Why not? If you would, what would you do/build?

It ultimately comes down to the risks faced, and the costs / inconvenience / negatives of countermeasures.

Fairly happy living in a house in a fairly tightknit neighborhood, without bars on the windows, or any real security beyond door locks that could easily be defeated by brute force. (did have a courier package go missing at one point, but this was a courier picking up outbound packages that accidently included a package which had been delivered less than a hour prior. Courier company who picked it up was of no help by the phone given I didn't have any proof, but it did turn up again two weeks later with their sticker on it, which I am great full for).

I might get some security camera's at some point to make our house a little less attractive, but a decent chunk of this is me liking the tech.

Being out in public is more of a concern. Would quite like a vehicle an enclosed, glass less trunk (sedan, but i want more cargo space than a sedan), or a ute with a hard lid / metal windowless canopy (so my stuff is more than a smash in grab away). Have had cars broken into and stuff stolen twice in my life (once time objectively I was very careless).

I have spend a bit of time in the Philippines. Spouses childhood home has a ~5m high fence (with spikes of / broken glass / barbed wire on top), bars on every window etc. At one point I visited due to (my farther in law who at the time was in the judiciary, with a high profile case on), they had a security guard sitting in their carport on a deck chair with a shotgun all night. He then would travel to work (armed), with an armed driver (ex cash transport security guard), and a an armed police office (either in the car with them, or following on a motorbike).

Not a very nice way to live sadly, but part of life for those in higher risk occupations in that country. And the situation their pales compared to parts of South America / and bits of Africa, where those who can afford it choose to ride in armored cars.

All this stuff has a very real financial & quality of life cost that I am glad much of New Zealand can opt out of.

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#3252513 24-Jun-2024 14:00

If you build an armed fortress, bad people are going to think you have something worth protecting. Much better to reside in a grass hut surrounded by dead rats.

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#3252520 24-Jun-2024 14:09

Scott3:

I have spend a bit of time in the Philippines. Spouses childhood home has a ~5m high fence (with spikes of / broken glass / barbed wire on top), bars on every window etc. At one point I visited due to (my farther in law who at the time was in the judiciary, with a high profile case on), they had a security guard sitting in their carport on a deck chair with a shotgun all night. He then would travel to work (armed), with an armed driver (ex cash transport security guard), and a an armed police office (either in the car with them, or following on a motorbike).

Not a very nice way to live sadly, but part of life for those in higher risk occupations in that country. And the situation their pales compared to parts of South America / and bits of Africa, where those who can afford it choose to ride in armored cars.

All this stuff has a very real financial & quality of life cost that I am glad much of New Zealand can opt out of.

I spent a day in Manila once. Very depressing place with guarded islands of shopping mall consumerism rising above the surrounding slums. It felt like a dystopian science fiction novel. Even as one of the privileged few (moneyed westerners welcome), I was glad to see it disappear beneath the clouds when my flight resumed.

(Note to outraged Manila residents: that was then, I can't speak about now. I also realise there are very beautiful and enjoyable places in the Philippines, even Manila. I still don't feel any desire to return.)

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#3252530 24-Jun-2024 14:15

Rikkitic:

If you build an armed fortress, bad people are going to think you have something worth protecting. Much better to reside in a grass hut surrounded by dead rats.

while there is an element of that, most places get scoped out before hand so they will see the grass hut has nice big flash tv etc. also commonly they are at the house for other reasons, so they get a look in.

one of the best protections is simply not having spots where people can hide and then scope or break in. being open and visible helps a lot. so no big "privacy" fencing or bushes/trees by the house.

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#3252561 24-Jun-2024 14:53

Lias:

Inspired by this and so as to not derail that thread.

Hypothetically, assuming that you had sufficient funds and the law allowed it, would you live in an armed and or armoured residence?

Whether it be pits of sharpened stakes, cages of monkeys, land mines, sentry turrets, or "home alone" style booby traps, would you? Why? Why not? If you would, what would you do/build?

Does not matter who locks you in (even yourself), ultimately you are then just a prisoner .

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#3252572 24-Jun-2024 15:24

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I don't think so. One question I'd have, could any of these measures endanger me.
For example, could intruders gain access to my weapons to make any home invasion even more dangerous for myself.
Could my "fortress" could become a trap that I can't escape, one that would prevent others from rescuing me.

This is the reality for many 3rd world countries - trapped in your own home with all the bars and gates over windows and doors, but if you don't have it you targetted first.

Its a sad reality for many people every day.

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#3252767 24-Jun-2024 18:33

tweake: but of course nz is so woke that if such a system actually stopped an intruder, you would be dragged through the courts and punished. self defense may be legal, but that doesn't stop them punishing you for doing so.

typically you'd be killing junk mail deliverers, religious door knockers and an occasional FedEx delivery, someone who got the wrong address, etc.

Wokeness aside for a moment that ain't even legal in Texas:

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/tablet-stops-bullet-when-texas-man-shoots-at-door-to-door-salesman-204053573518

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#3253651 26-Jun-2024 20:15

If you need this you need to move to a new neighbourhood

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