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#324096 26-Feb-2026 11:43
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My latest "white whale" search is a book I read back in the late 90s (I think) that I'm trying to track down, but for some reason is eluding my Google searches.

 

I thought it was called "The Fourth Horseman" but that doesn't appear to be the case.  What I can remember (fully acknowledging my memory might not be correct) is that it's set in New Zealand (most likely Auckland), so I think it would almost certainly be a NZ author.  I think it was set around the late 80s, built on the concerns/fears about nuclear war impacting on NZ because of visiting US nuclear powered/armed vessels.  I think the plot begins with a nuclear war starting, and while NZ wasn't directly targeted it is affected by the fallout (both figuratively and literally).  I think the protagonists are children (maybe street kids?) who have to deal with the impacts of a country that is now cut off from the world, the rapidly-approaching nuclear winter, and the breakdown of society.

 

I think I borrowed it from an Auckland library - possibly Massey University when I was studying there in the late 90s.  

 

My googling comes up with the suggestion "Children of the Dust" but it sounds like it's not set in NZ, and also it's published too late for what I remember.  It's also not Under the Mountain (I clearly remember that story, and it's completely different).  It's also not Tomorrow When the War Began (have those books, different story).

 

Does this summary ring any bells for anyone?


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  #3465133 26-Feb-2026 11:53
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I asked ChatGPT about this on your behalf and it came up with: Because We Were the Travellers by Jack Lazenby.

 

Written in 1997 by kiwi author who wrote for kids and young adults and died in 2019. Set in Waikato and Auckland. Sound like the one you're looking for?





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  #3465147 26-Feb-2026 12:18
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Thanks, but that's not it. I should say that I also asked ChatGPT and struck out there too. 


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  #3465149 26-Feb-2026 12:22
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Ask ChatGPT to write it for you...... :)

 

 





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  #3465156 26-Feb-2026 13:03
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The Fourth Horseman by John A. Moller?

 

https://natlib.govt.nz/records/20658807

 

 

 

 


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  #3465175 26-Feb-2026 13:55
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What's your favourite Prepper fiction novel? - AusPrep.com

 

"If you want an NZ one - its out of print - but can be got from second hand bookshops - The fourth Horseman - John Moller"

 

 





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  #3465182 26-Feb-2026 14:18
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"The Keeper" by Barry Faville, published in 1986.

 

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3353960-the-keeper

 

 





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  #3465282 26-Feb-2026 21:28
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cddt:

 

The Fourth Horseman by John A. Moller?

 

https://natlib.govt.nz/records/20658807

 

 

That's it! Thank you!


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  #3465283 26-Feb-2026 21:29
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Gemini is always better than ChatGPT.





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  #3465319 27-Feb-2026 08:22
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Of course, the next challenge is where to find a copy (in print or digital), but at least now I have the author and title it's a little easier


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  #3465328 27-Feb-2026 09:00
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freitasm:

 

Gemini is always better than ChatGPT.

 

 

I had a great run with ChatGPT till it started ignoring the guardrails and guidelines saved to memory. I moved to Gemini which is better but still does it, and Claude has been the best. I've cancelled my ChatGPT sub in favour of Claude and Gemini.

 

 


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  #3465353 27-Feb-2026 10:08
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Lizard1977:

 

Of course, the next challenge is where to find a copy (in print or digital), but at least now I have the author and title it's a little easier

 

 

Several libraries appear to have it in their collection. Whereabouts are you located? 


 
 
 

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  #3465361 27-Feb-2026 10:27
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Palmerston North


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  #3465375 27-Feb-2026 11:03
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Click the link I provided, go to "Find the item in another New Zealand library" then use the interloan service at your local public library to get hold of a copy. 


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