Radar detectors going to be Outlawed? is this true or just a Scare

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# 44411 27-Oct-2009 12:48

Hello there im just wonder if the goverment is going to ban radar detectors in new zealand i remember towards the begining of the year they said was something on the news about it.
Does Anyone Know anymore Details on this?

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# 267222 27-Oct-2009 13:03

Think this is something that gets thrown around at least once a year.
Usually by the time your radar detector has gone off, youre pinged anyway :)

But looks like Tony had a blog about it... http://www.geekzone.co.nz/tonyhughes/4303

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# 267225 27-Oct-2009 13:16

Yeah this was thrown around last year too and saying it was coming into force on teh 1st June..but then disappeared off the radar. Bad pun, i know :)

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# 267227 27-Oct-2009 13:21

Cant see it happening.

My radar picks up a patrol car from upwards of 1km away on straight highway. Definately paid for itself more than 10 times over!!!

Plus it generally keeps me a lot more "aware" of my speed which has got to be a good thing.

The force is strong with this one!

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# 267240 27-Oct-2009 13:58

I remember at one point when they were talking about stopping them someone argues the same point that has been used the world over to keep them legal, and that's the fact that they have the ability to pick up 'accident warnings' which the police are supposed to setup a transmitter when they are at an accident to warn people that something has happened.

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# 267279 27-Oct-2009 14:47

rossmnz: My radar picks up a patrol car from upwards of 1km away on straight highway. Definately paid for itself more than 10 times over!!!

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# 267283 27-Oct-2009 14:58

Would not speeding also have the same effect? And it's free!

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# 267284 27-Oct-2009 14:59

When you turn it on ofcourse... Now you just need to convince les to buy one

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# 267311 27-Oct-2009 16:11

rscole86: When you turn it on ofcourse... Now you just need to convince les to buy one

I'd love to have one of the Valentine One radar detectors, however I don't think I'll be able to convince Leslie (my partner) that I deserve one for Xmas, I think they retail for over $1k.

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# 267316 27-Oct-2009 16:19

It's one of those things that advancements to keep ahead of the others has shot itself in the foot.

Originally, radar dectectors around the time of the old Hawk and Eagle use were loved by the police. The number of false readings you got when you went past electronic doors had you on your toes that in their eyes, it was a safety warning device that had you always checking your speed.. "just incase"

Then come the stalker Dual units and lasers. They changed bands to get better range and accuracy, so the detectors had to change to match it

This of course means they no longer use the same band as most electronic doors, and to get the upperhand they are fine tuned and marketed as super accurate by the makers.

Ultimately turning them into exactly that, an infringement avoidance device.

And this is why they are now shunned. Infact the changes they insist on bringing up (threatening to review) includes scanners (you could potentially listen in to avoid booze busses and speed traps).

But theres also a few ifs and butts too. What happens if you hide it in the glove box as you are pulled over, how do they justify the right to search, and proving it was turned on at the time. Etc etc

Theres some interesting reading on http://www.radardirect.co.nz/new/frameset/ under FAQ. The police even assisted in testing them back in 2002!

Its also illegal to purchase/use them in many states in aussie, but the big loophole lets you drive to the next state and buy one. But lookout if you are pinged with one (or they fire up a detection device)

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# 267364 27-Oct-2009 18:04

They are worthless when it comes to a cop who really knows how to use his radar. Not every car drives around with it's radar transmitting..

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# 267405 27-Oct-2009 19:06

I heard something about them being ruled out, but I guess it's one of those things that just keeps getting thrown around the room.

xpd: Usually by the time your radar detector has gone off, youre pinged anyway :)

I disagree.

rossmnz:My radar picks up a patrol car from upwards of 1km away on straight highway. Definately paid for itself more than 10 times over!!!

Ditto.

bazzer: Would not speeding also have the same effect? And it's free!

For me at least, it's not about the fact of speeding. It's about having a bit of protection from being stung when you're going maybe only 5-10km/h over the limit. It also gives a feeling that you've got something back on the cops.

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# 267406 27-Oct-2009 19:10

I guess they will ban them when the find that the road toll didn't go down when hand held cellfones were banned. They'll aways look for an excuse to ban some activity..

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# 267420 27-Oct-2009 19:47

well i don't think banning radar detectors is going to keep the road toll down at all i think that they need to remember that there is more people living in new zealand then there used to be. and i think if the police are allowed to monitor our speed then why aren't we allowed to monitor there radar. The Police Say that (Radar Detectors don't Work) so why ban them if they don't work

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# 267422 27-Oct-2009 19:49

HiK1000716: I heard something about them being ruled out, but I guess it's one of those things that just keeps getting thrown around the room.

xpd: Usually by the time your radar detector has gone off, youre pinged anyway :)

I disagree.

rossmnz:My radar picks up a patrol car from upwards of 1km away on straight highway. Definately paid for itself more than 10 times over!!!

Ditto.

bazzer: Would not speeding also have the same effect? And it's free!

For me at least, it's not about the fact of speeding. It's about having a bit of protection from being stung when you're going maybe only 5-10km/h over the limit. It also gives a feeling that you've got something back on the cops.

I Agree with all the the Above ^

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# 267441 27-Oct-2009 20:42

Jadefuzy:
HiK1000716: I heard something about them being ruled out, but I guess it's one of those things that just keeps getting thrown around the room.

xpd: Usually by the time your radar detector has gone off, youre pinged anyway :)

I disagree.

rossmnz:My radar picks up a patrol car from upwards of 1km away on straight highway. Definately paid for itself more than 10 times over!!!

Ditto.

bazzer: Would not speeding also have the same effect? And it's free!

For me at least, it's not about the fact of speeding. It's about having a bit of protection from being stung when you're going maybe only 5-10km/h over the limit. It also gives a feeling that you've got something back on the cops.

I Agree with all the the Above ^

As said above, not speeding has the same effect. New Zealand has one of the lowest corruption index in the world, so it's not like cops stop you to make money. If you are going 5km over on a 100km zone it's unlikely they will stop you.

It's speeding. Pure and simple.

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