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Topic # 56690 21-Jan-2010 07:16
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I dont want to advocate further, but this was in today papers. In this age of browser spell checkers and more, Its definitely a topic to give a thought to.

Feel free to pour your thoughts.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10621368

Young texters gr8 spellers
4:00 AM Thursday Jan 21, 2010

A study published by the British Academy says teachers and parents should embrace texting as a means of improving their children's phonological awareness.

For instance, a child who texts gr8 to a friend often actually knows how to spell the longer form of the word. Researchers also noted an increasing awareness among texters of which words rhymed with each other.

The research, among a sample group of eight to 12-year-olds, found the most regular texters were unlikely to be among the problem spellers or readers in the class.

However, Dr Clare Wood, a reader in development psychology at Coventry University, said: "We began studying in this area initially to see if there was any evidence of association between text abbreviation use and literacy skills at all after such a negative portrayal of the activity in the media.

"We were surprised to learn that not only was the association strong but that textism use was actually driving the development of phonological awareness and reading skill in children.

"Texting also appears to be a valuable form of contact with written English for many children, which enables them to practise reading and spelling on a daily basis."

The research failed to detect any sign that frequent texting had any effect on spelling ability in writing standard English.

It found that frequent texters were more likely to have higher scores in verbal reasoning tests.

"Those who used the most phonologically-based textisms were the best at spelling," it added.

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  Reply # 291705 21-Jan-2010 08:20
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Whoever did that study somehow got their results jumbled!


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  Reply # 291714 21-Jan-2010 08:49
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Most people I know younger than myself who text a lot are shocking at spelling.




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  Reply # 291718 21-Jan-2010 08:54
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sep11guy:
It found that frequent texters were more likely to have higher scores in verbal reasoning tests.

"Those who used the most phonologically-based textisms were the best at spelling," it added.


Except when they don't know the limits between medium - and keep using "textisms" when writing emails, posting in forums, etc...




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  Reply # 291724 21-Jan-2010 09:09
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I wonder if they looked at grammar too.






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  Reply # 291733 21-Jan-2010 09:27
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sep11guy:
It found that frequent texters were more likely to have higher scores in verbal reasoning tests.

"Those who used the most phonologically-based textisms were the best at spelling," it added.


Except when they don't know the limits between medium - and keep using "textisms" when writing emails, posting in forums, etc...



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  Reply # 291854 21-Jan-2010 12:39
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This got mentioned this morning in the news and I couldn't believe it.

Most people associate words phonetically anyway, it's just how you end up spelling it out in written form.

There are a lot of people (not just young TXTers) who mix up words because they sound similar. e.g. "There" != "Their" != "They're"




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  Reply # 291887 21-Jan-2010 13:42
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Language evolves, no need to panic.  "Internet English" is not your grandma's music..

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  Reply # 292064 22-Jan-2010 02:52
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I use predictive texting and I think the reason why most people don't use it is because people can't spell well enough to use it (as if you don't spell the word right the phone won't be able to predict it right)




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  Reply # 292070 22-Jan-2010 05:42
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I wonder what demographic they used for this study?

I also like the way they say "a child who texts gr8 to a friend often actually knows how to spell the longer form of the word" - a child of 8 or above should *always* know how to spell the longer form of this word.

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  Reply # 292125 22-Jan-2010 10:34
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c71931f: I'm young'ish...
And good at spelling normally and txt language ... (and hardly ever use a spelling checker )



I'm young and usually I'm quite good at spelling while texting, mostly due to the auto-correct on my iPhone but I do agree with other people as there is some really bad spellers out there. Or people that over abbreviate and you can't actually understand what they are saying.




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  Reply # 292139 22-Jan-2010 11:28
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There are people who txt in e-mails, but what annoys me more is multiple question/exclamation marks.
This really annoys me!!!!!!!!!! Doesn't it annoy you?????????????????

I get this from people who use grammar and spell correctly. It's really distracting.

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  Reply # 292158 22-Jan-2010 12:43
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Middle English (circa 12th century):

"The day approcheth of hir retourninge, that everich shoulde an hundred knightes bringe,"

Modern English:

"The day approached for their return, when each of them should bring a hundred knights"

Internet English

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  Reply # 292177 22-Jan-2010 13:25
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Ragnor: Middle English (circa 12th century):

"The day approcheth of hir retourninge, that everich shoulde an hundred knightes bringe,"

Modern English:

"The day approached for their return, when each of them should bring a hundred knights"

Internet English

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?? = d day aprchd 4 der retrn, wen each f em shd brng a 100 nyts.

haha. just joking. but i want to know,

Why is it so hard to accept the text language by common people -

Is it hard to read / interpret ? Language is evolving everyday as more new words are added in the dictionary every year. You might have noticed how at the end of the year, they publish a list of words added. And going by the trend one day txt words may be added or even a new dictionary.

So is it that the older generation - say born before 80's are finding it hard to cope with the evolving language.

I would like to get more better answer than plain "txt is gay/lame/irritating/hard on eyes" etc..



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Ragnor: Middle English (circa 12th century):

"The day approcheth of hir retourninge, that everich shoulde an hundred knightes bringe,"

Modern English:

"The day approached for their return, when each of them should bring a hundred knights"

Internet English

??


?? = d day aprchd 4 der retrn, wen each f em shd brng a 100 nyts.

...

Why is it so hard to accept the text language by common people -

...

I would like to get more better answer than plain "txt is gay/lame/irritating/hard on eyes" etc..


I'm 16 and I sometimes have trouble with TXT language.

Here are the things which make it harder for me to interpret:


  • Shortening of words vary between users depending on how they sound it out and if they know other "better" ways of TXTing it.

  • Sometimes the words are abbreviated in ways which are ambiguous. e.g. in the message above, "f" could possibly mean "if" or "of", and only appears once you finish the sentence and understand the meaning of it.

  • In some instances, when the messages are coupled with poor grammar and the above, messages also don't make sense and it takes longer for you to run through what the message is saying - I'm not annoyed by this, but I would most definitely appreciate it if they had the time to correct it.

  • Some messages are shortened so much (not just TXT language, but overall sentence structure) that it loses meaning or gets lost in translation.


That's why I spell properly in all my text messages since that gives clear messages which are instantly recognised.

It does really depend on how the message is originally crafted and how the sender likes the recipient to interpret it.




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  Reply # 292229 22-Jan-2010 14:55
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Here are the things which make it harder for me to interpret:





  • Shortening of words vary between users depending on how they sound it out and if they know other "better" ways of TXTing it.



  • Sometimes the words are abbreviated in ways which are ambiguous. e.g. in the message above, "f" could possibly mean "if" or "of", and only appears once you finish the sentence and understand the meaning of it.



  • In some instances, when the messages are coupled with poor grammar and the above, messages also don't make sense and it takes longer for you to run through what the message is saying - I'm not annoyed by this, but I would most definitely appreciate it if they had the time to correct it.



  • Some messages are shortened so much (not just TXT language, but overall sentence structure) that it loses meaning or gets lost in translation.





That's why I spell properly in all my text messages since that gives clear messages which are instantly recognised.

It does really depend on how the message is originally crafted and how the sender likes the recipient to interpret it.


Really good points . . Well said manhilni

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