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Topic # 57260 7-Feb-2010 21:52
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After John Key's decision to allow the maori flag to fly on the bridge, it was hosted up on the left hand side (going towards the North Shore), with the NZ flag on the right. 

I was back and forward across the bridge most of Saturday, and on my last trip home (just after midnight) the maori flag was gone, and the NZ one was on both. I would've thought that it would be replaced first thing (say 7am) in the morning, but seems it was gone as soon as Waitangi Day was over.

Maybe it was only allowed there for exactly 24 hours?

Interesting.

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  Reply # 296924 7-Feb-2010 22:18
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24 hours too long if you ask me

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  Reply # 296928 7-Feb-2010 22:30
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It does seem a little extreme to take it down right on midnight.
I personally dont have a problem with the flag being up there untill like you say, early the next morning.

but to quote the tui billboard: "put a flag on the bridge and it will solve all the problems. . . . Yeah right" or something like that.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 296929 7-Feb-2010 22:31
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Could it not just coincide with maintenance schedules? Weird for a Sunday through.







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  Reply # 298104 11-Feb-2010 21:05

I really wouldn't think it would coincide with any maintenance.

That's just stupid, its a weekend, why even bother it wasn't that much of a big thing, its only a flag.


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  Reply # 298106 11-Feb-2010 21:09
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plod: 24 hours too long if you ask me


Riiiiighhht... So no interest in better race relations eh?




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  Reply # 298200 12-Feb-2010 00:33
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NZtechfreak:
plod: 24 hours too long if you ask me


Riiiiighhht... So no interest in better race relations eh?


Actually, I would say he's more interested in better race relations than you.  If we really wanted to move forward, we'd have ONE flag representing both unique cultures.  There would be no "NZ flag" and "Maori flag", there would be one flag for all (and it would be neither of the current flags).  We'd also chuck that treaty out the window, cut out the ridiculous handouts, and insist that we're all actually one people, with equality for all.




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  Reply # 298203 12-Feb-2010 01:28
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Right, because insisting we're one people would fix race relations and somehow provide equality?

I agree that one flag representing all cultures would be ideal, but thats not what we have now is it? I don't see a problem with flying a flag that Maori actually identify with on Waitangi day, being that this all-encompassing flag does not yet exist.




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  Reply # 298231 12-Feb-2010 08:15
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NZtechfreak: Right, because insisting we're one people would fix race relations and somehow provide equality?


I agree that one flag representing all cultures would be ideal, but thats not what we have now is it? I don't see a problem with flying a flag that Maori actually identify with on Waitangi day, being that this all-encompassing flag does not yet exist.


I guess Maori separatism is alive and well here..




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  Reply # 298242 12-Feb-2010 09:07
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Er, how on earth is that separatism?

Not at all, recognising one of the treaty partners on the day that honors our founding document is hardly separatism. I never said we weren't one people, only that "insisting", or in other words dictating that we are does nothing for race relations or the promotion of equality.




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  Reply # 298250 12-Feb-2010 09:18

Ok im pretty sure the reason the flag come
down at mid night is because in Waikangi a ceremony is done at dawn and dusk where the flag goes up then down. So the flag on the harbour bridge would rise and be brought down the same times as waitangi

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NZtechfreak:
plod: 24 hours too long if you ask me


Riiiiighhht... So no interest in better race relations eh?


Actually, I would say he's more interested in better race relations than you.  If we really wanted to move forward, we'd have ONE flag representing both unique cultures.  There would be no "NZ flag" and "Maori flag", there would be one flag for all (and it would be neither of the current flags).  We'd also chuck that treaty out the window, cut out the ridiculous handouts, and insist that we're all actually one people, with equality for all.


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NZtechfreak: Right, because insisting we're one people would fix race relations and somehow provide equality?

I agree that one flag representing all cultures would be ideal, but thats not what we have now is it? I don't see a problem with flying a flag that Maori actually identify with on Waitangi day, being that this all-encompassing flag does not yet exist.



But not all Maori do identify with it. Ngai Tahu don't: "Onuku runanga chairman George Tikao said the tino rangatiratanga flag would not be flown as the iwi 'don't believe that is our flag'." They chose instead to hoist the "Flag of the United Tribes of New Zealand, an 1834 design" as they believed the tino rangatirtanga  "flag has been nothing but trouble".


So an ell-encompassing flag for Maori doesn't exist either.

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  Reply # 298375 12-Feb-2010 13:58
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I am part Maori but I guess it comes down to how much you follow the traditions and if they identify themselves with that flag. Me personally I don't identify with it at all. I don't understand it and only find the New Zealand flag my flag! All are to their own I guess.

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  Reply # 298381 12-Feb-2010 14:16
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I don't even know why Maori have their own flag... is it just "because they can"?

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  Reply # 298387 12-Feb-2010 14:30

Well Simon its not the Maori flag, its the Tino-rangatiratanga flag.

Now this flag does not represent Maori!!!

But Maori are using it, im not sure at this stge why, or by who started this flag

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