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Topic # 63029 19-Jun-2010 01:13
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Russel Norman is one brave man

http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/no-charges-after-clashes-delegation-3597522
 
Do we have diplomatic immunity for bodyguards of overseas politicians?

It's not a good look for china not to cooperate. What do you think? 

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  Reply # 343178 19-Jun-2010 01:37
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It's horrible. Here we have an overseas visitor having his goons rough up a NZ MP. How does that work?


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  Reply # 343188 19-Jun-2010 05:59
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I think the Greens are loonies although maybe a somewhat necessary 'check and balance' in our system. So I have little time for them but the Chinese were definitely outta line yesterday in Welly.

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  Reply # 343198 19-Jun-2010 08:29
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I don't think there is anything wrong with showing a little respect. If an MP has a problem with a particular politician then there is an appropriate forum to hash out that issue.

What has happened to the concept of a gentleman in New Zealand?

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  Reply # 343200 19-Jun-2010 08:37
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in the video footage hardly looks like a rough-up. You'd see worse in a primary school playground.
It's not like Russell Norman didn't push himself in the way. Should have expected some kind of reaction.

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  Reply # 343201 19-Jun-2010 08:40
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Well as much as I respect the right of anyone to protest about the chinese/tibet/whatever, from the very small bit I saw of it on TV, I did think that Russel Norman did look a bit more like a protester than a politician - so I am not surprised that the chinese security thought he may have been a threat.

I agree though - that was an inappropriate way to handle a NZ MP. Seeing the footage I dont know how the security people were supposed to know who Russel Norman was.

Remember how they allowed the american security to be armed when Clinton came out a few years ago (think they passed a special law or else his minders wouldnt let him come) - if someone had tried to get near the US president like that (add language issues) I imagine they may have ended up with lead poisoning! The man the security is protecting is one of the top 2 or 3 most powerful men in the world so they are going to take their job seriously.




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  Reply # 343208 19-Jun-2010 09:17
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Some perspective - he had an umbrella put up in front of him, and then muscled his way through to be seen again. His flag was then ripped from him and then given back. A mistake yes, the idiot should have been ignored! However not assault. Now the VP is canceling visits,

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3830414/Chinese-VP-cancels-university-visit

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  Reply # 343276 19-Jun-2010 17:53
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As far as I am concerned, he got what he deserved.

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  Reply # 343281 19-Jun-2010 18:07
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if a neo nazi decided to invade the space at the greens conference, and shove a nazi flag in ross normans face..would the greens use security to jostle the nazi out ?

i wonder?

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