[World Cup 2010] New Zealand All White 1 vs Italy 1

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#63092 21-Jun-2010 05:53

Congratulation New Zealand!!! I have watched the game and so surprise that the All White did so well against the world champion Italy,considerably New Zealand such a new baby in the Football World Cup...yahooo!!!!!

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#343611 21-Jun-2010 07:02

I am not sure we are a new baby? We were there in 1982... getting kicked.

I did get up to watch the game, but I was very dissapointed in the way the Italians played, and how the ref played right into their hands. New Zealand played very well for their win, and rightly so, but they needed to play smarter to counter the Italian theatrics.

Well done All Whites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, wheres my coffee?

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#343623 21-Jun-2010 08:21

Well done guys. I heard one of the commentators this morning saying that the Italian penalty was the result of an Italian Hollywood.

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#343640 21-Jun-2010 09:08

Yup - definitely a lot of Spaghetti Western theatrics there this morning - I thought Fallon would get sent off eventually.

Did nothing to improve the footballing world's impression of the Italian team.

Well done the All Whites! You played 12 men on the park and millions around the world and came through with what very nearly became a win! If only that Chris Wood shot had gone in!

Brilliant job. Incredibly proud.

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#343646 21-Jun-2010 09:27

Great result and well deserved for our Team.

A really great defensive game and Paston doing great work.

But have to say the theatrics of the Italians in the first half almost put me off watching the second. I've never really understood why in soccer if you get touched by a player from the opposing team you must fall in pain to the ground... yet have the bravery to deflect the ball with your head and have the ability to run around with half your own team clinging to you if you score yourself.

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#343677 21-Jun-2010 10:20

oxnsox: But have to say the theatrics of the Italians in the first half almost put me off watching the second.

For a lot of people this is there first taste of soccer/football, at this level or at all. A lot of people are willing to embrace it, going in with an open mind and none of that media hype of trying to pit football vs rugby. Thing is though, with no 3rd ref or after match panel this hollywood stuff is really leaving a bad taste in the mouth.

We played a really good game so all credit to them. I guess we should play to the rules to ensure no fouls come our way, eg not even pull a shirt for a second, but it's hard to be aggressive when every single point of contact sees one player flying through the air grasping his foot, then springing to his feet when no foul is given. It's football, but it's frustrating for a new viewer who thought it might be a different sport than it appears it is.

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#343735 21-Jun-2010 12:25

I too watched the game and could not believe how often/quickly/easily they Italians fell down. I was put off by it and just had the game playing in background rather than watching once they got all carried away with it.

Yet NZ captain Ryan Nelson got the yellow card for wasting time?

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#343763 21-Jun-2010 13:25

IlDuce: Yet NZ captain Ryan Nelson got the yellow card for wasting time?

Yeah ref wasn't used to people actually having something wrong with them when they went down!

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#343776 21-Jun-2010 14:24

THat was what really got my goat this morning!

The ref should be pulled from the panel immediately. He was atrocious.

Ryan Nelsen was clearly injured and yet (as he was clearly not Italian) he was booked.

If that had happened in Europe, he would have been pelted with objects as he left the field.

The Italians should be ashamed of themmselves, for play-acting like they did. Bunch of pansies.

I've been a football fan my whole life - I still play - and if there's one thing that really grates me, it's Nancies prancing about like the Italian team did today, falling down, clutching their faces when there's beena shoulder-to-shoulder challenge.

I'd love to see them get knocked out by Slovakia. A real dicking. 4-0 to Slovakia would be nice.

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#343794 21-Jun-2010 15:30

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IlDuce: Yet NZ captain Ryan Nelson got the yellow card for wasting time?
Yeah ref wasn't used to people actually having something wrong with them when they went down!

Yellow card was for not going off on the stretcher - Apparently it's a FIFA regulation, if it comes on the field you have to go off on it!!

Will, thats what the comentators alluded to...

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#343795 21-Jun-2010 15:31

Whos call is it to get the stretcher? If it was not asked for, then is it his fault?

EDIT:According to the rules, available here, the ref has to call for the stretcher, but there is no mention of the player being required to use it. BUT they must leave the field.

as soon as the referee has authorised the doctors to enter the field of play, the player must leave the fi eld of play, either on a stretcher or on foot. If a player does not comply, he must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour

So unless the ref heard something that we didn't, ie he got told that they did not want to leave the field? Then I cannot see why he got a yellow card.

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#343858 21-Jun-2010 17:51

rscole86: Whos call is it to get the stretcher? If it was not asked for, then is it his fault?

EDIT:According to the rules, available here, the ref has to call for the stretcher, but there is no mention of the player being required to use it. BUT they must leave the field.

as soon as the referee has authorised the doctors to enter the field of play, the player must leave the fi eld of play, either on a stretcher or on foot. If a player does not comply, he must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour

So unless the ref heard something that we didn't, ie he got told that they did not want to leave the field? Then I cannot see why he got a yellow card.

Dunno, like I said that's what was muted by the commentators. Maybe its in the interpretation of the law.

But having a look at other threads they seem to relate to the fact if the stretcher was on the field it must be used - Maybe the ref asked him to use it?!?!?

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