ANPR cameras in use by New Zealand Police

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#64900 25-Jul-2010 09:29

At last the police are utilising ANPR cameras. At least it will remove some of the shoddy drivers in the road.

http://www.3news.co.nz/New-crime-fighting-tech-raises-privacy-concerns/tabid/423/articleID/166858/Default.aspx

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#355995 25-Jul-2010 09:54

Extremely effective in the UK, where they alert the police to unregistered, unwarranted or uninsured cars. Of the the UK is the most surveilled country in the world - do we really want to go that way over here?

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#356000 25-Jul-2010 10:30

I guess people with criminal intentions would say no. Law-abiding citizens would say yes.

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#356010 25-Jul-2010 10:53

At least this is only ANPR not CCTV. The ANPR camera is only catching people with stolen cars, no wof, no tax from their database. Usually the shoddy drivers are the ones without tax or wof. When my company first tested the cameras for the police, we managed to captured 60 cars that were in the database.

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#356061 25-Jul-2010 13:50

I heard a trial was done and they had to turn it off after an hour due to the large number of vehicles being of interest for no wof/reg, stolen etc etc.

It's OK having this technology but if it isn't backed up with staff to stop the cars it isn't much use.

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#356065 25-Jul-2010 14:01

The fact that they are using these in South Auckland indicates to e a tax gathering exercise. Porirua in Wellington next??

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#356067 25-Jul-2010 14:07

I'm quite surprised the Police haven't yet deployed fixed average speed cameras here - the lack of them does show that their traffic enforcement is all about revenue gathering and not actually wanting people to slow down.

For those that don't know what they are they capture your licence plate details and do this again say 10 miles down the road. By knowing the time it took to cover this distance it can instantly work our your average speed and in turn know if you were speeding. There is no escape because unlike a fixed camera that can only capture your speed at a fixed location these use your average speed over a section of highway.

These same cameras are also used for rego lookups etc in the UK.

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#356072 25-Jul-2010 14:21

sbiddle: I'm quite surprised the Police haven't yet deployed fixed average speed cameras here - the lack of them does show that their traffic enforcement is all about revenue gathering and not actually wanting people to slow down.

For those that don't know what they are they capture your licence plate details and do this again say 10 miles down the road. By knowing the time it took to cover this distance it can instantly work our your average speed and in turn know if you were speeding. There is no escape because unlike a fixed camera that can only capture your speed at a fixed location these use your average speed over a section of highway.

These same cameras are also used for rego lookups etc in the UK.

The camera is exactly the same as the one used by the UK police but I don't think the NZ Police has the same spending power as the UK police.

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#356081 25-Jul-2010 15:12

Imagine what would happen if the police started using flip videos in everyday situations. Perhaps the law could be changed to accept these as evidence Judges could make decisions on video evidence, and then perhaps the police wouldn’t have the laborious task of writing report, reports could refer to video evidence stored on hard drives. Then perhaps they could spend more valuable time out preventing and assisting in the community. Great to be able to dream

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#356089 25-Jul-2010 15:38

old3eyes: The fact that they are using these in South Auckland indicates to e a tax gathering exercise. Porirua in Wellington next??

They are only used to collect taxes that have been evaded which in turn costs me (and you presumably?) more in the taxes that we pay. Bring it on I say! They are not an additional revenue-gathering scheme like 50m-bus lane-infringers.

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#356131 25-Jul-2010 17:59

old3eyes: The fact that they are using these in South Auckland indicates to e a tax gathering exercise. Porirua in Wellington next??

What about the people driving around in vehicles that haven't had a WOF for a few years? I certainly don't want to be sharing the road with them.

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#356309 26-Jul-2010 06:03

old3eyes: The fact that they are using these in South Auckland indicates to e a tax gathering exercise. Porirua in Wellington next??

No it's hopefully getting unsafe vehicles off the roads and saving lives. Northland and south Auckland have a very high number of road deaths.

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#356310 26-Jul-2010 06:09

sbiddle: I'm quite surprised the Police haven't yet deployed fixed average speed cameras here - the lack of them does show that their traffic enforcement is all about revenue gathering and not actually wanting people to slow down.

For those that don't know what they are they capture your licence plate details and do this again say 10 miles down the road. By knowing the time it took to cover this distance it can instantly work our your average speed and in turn know if you were speeding. There is no escape because unlike a fixed camera that can only capture your speed at a fixed location these use your average speed over a section of highway.

These same cameras are also used for rego lookups etc in the UK.

Average speed cameras are horrible things. They cause traffic to bunch up and drivers spend more time looking at their speedo's . There are ways of 'speeding' at times in an average speed zone without getting caught.

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#356466 26-Jul-2010 13:00

wmoore:
old3eyes: The fact that they are using these in South Auckland indicates to e a tax gathering exercise. Porirua in Wellington next??

No it's hopefully getting unsafe vehicles off the roads and saving lives. Northland and south Auckland have a very high number of road deaths.

Do we have statistics for unwarranted vehicles causing fatalities?

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#356468 26-Jul-2010 13:02

MikeyPI:
wmoore:
old3eyes: The fact that they are using these in South Auckland indicates to e a tax gathering exercise. Porirua in Wellington next??

No it's hopefully getting unsafe vehicles off the roads and saving lives. Northland and south Auckland have a very high number of road deaths.

Do we have statistics for unwarranted vehicles causing fatalities?

Probably no point, I heard that 78.3% of all statistics were made up on the spot.

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#356476 26-Jul-2010 13:11

kiwitrc:
MikeyPI:
wmoore:
old3eyes: The fact that they are using these in South Auckland indicates to e a tax gathering exercise. Porirua in Wellington next??

No it's hopefully getting unsafe vehicles off the roads and saving lives. Northland and south Auckland have a very high number of road deaths.

Do we have statistics for unwarranted vehicles causing fatalities?

Probably no point, I heard that 78.3% of all statistics were made up on the spot.

Lol no doubt, and the LTSA have a bad history for manipulating crash statistics.

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