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Topic # 6739 20-Feb-2006 08:50
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In the last few weeks before this post we had to take action on people becoming "fanatics" because of brands. Instead of gauging the services and benefits provided, people attacked brands, and then it became annoying because fanatics tend to repeat it over, and over.

The case was very similar to people saying Microsoft is evil(TM) simply for the sake of it. It happens when a company is successful. In the last few months I've heard people saying this about Google, which used to be the darling of all tech companies.

There is a very interesting entry at the SpreadFirefox blog: Spread Firefox, but don't be a fanatic:

"In my opinion it's ridiculous to have "loyalty" to a company. I base my evaluation of products only on their own self-worth and merit as a product, and not on any pre-conceived opinions about the company that develops it or distributes it. Generalizing about the software of one company as a whole is, frankly, narrow-minded and readily worthy of ridicule".

"I think that a lot of IE users just see that they are getting pushed by Firefox users to switch, and don't like it that people are telling them 'My browser is sooo superior! You should switch, because your browser sucks.'. I'm not saying everyone does this, if you don't then thats good, but many people take this approach, mostly when dealing with people on the 'net that think IE is the best browser. This is not a good approach to take, and really its rude and inappropriate. It pushes people away, and thats not what SFx is about.".


How true... So, think about this before posting a rant that is not directed to a product or service, but to a brand.

And, most importantly, when debating on a forum, attack the ideas, not the people...

By the way, the action was to ban a user and warn another one.





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Reply # 28813 20-Feb-2006 09:40
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So are you saying Microsoft isn't evil?

I mean, c'mon. We all know tech companies make it big because they make bargains with Evil itself. Which is why you hear such vocal endorsements for the underdog product. It's not that they truly believe that the product is superior. They're trying to stop the advance of evil!

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Reply # 28830 20-Feb-2006 12:23
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I wonder how those involved in the big Ford vs Holden debate/war would take your reasoning. They are biggest lot of hard headed narrowminded people when it comes to viewing the opposing product. That is all about brand there.

For the record......... Holdens SUCK

Staunch Ford fanatic right here people.

Sorry Mauricio hope that doesnt stir things up too much, but it had to be done.

The only reason people call MS evil is because deep down they are jealous of what they have accomplished. Sure they act aggressively but kudos to them for getting to where they are today.

 
 
 
 


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Reply # 28872 20-Feb-2006 16:47

I think there should be no connection between people's behaviour and their fanatic or loyalty to a brand.

It's just common sense or level of intelligence how we behave

Like if we go to any game where our favourite team is playing: we should support our team and not saying anything bad about the opponent.
(the referee is in different category though.. you can send him to...) :-)




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Reply # 28874 20-Feb-2006 17:07
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Aloha: Like if we go to any game where our favourite team is playing: we should support our team and not saying anything bad about the opponent.


Unless its the aussies of course. they can go to .... as well

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Reply # 28875 20-Feb-2006 17:26

Especially in cricket...

I am new to cricket, but I already saw the "underarm incident". Terrible. And unfair.
And ..moderated..




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Reply # 28876 20-Feb-2006 17:29
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Or in anything. Damned aussies

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Reply # 28890 20-Feb-2006 18:50
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I prefer Holdens, but am selling all my vehicles and will just keep one of my Falcon utes...

Although I prefer the Holdens, I aint no fanboy, and in fact really just enjoy driving large vehicles (maybe because I am 6'7" tall....).

Firefox is okay - I like Opera better, but am currently using IE7 Beta.




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Reply # 29142 23-Feb-2006 00:02
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Telecom vs Vodafone
Holden vs Ford
Allblacks vs Lions
Blah blah.
Compaq vs Dell
PocketPC vs Palm
and......
Windows Vs Linux

C'mon guys... It's all what they pump out, they all have their plain flops and some really good stuff.

It's always changing, I an a Holden (Opel) man myself, but really like the lastest Falcon series and Love Classic Ford and Holden, (the Ford AU series can all go to the ferrous mill)

I use Telecom though Like some things on Vodafone, Vodafone have the handsets and simcards, Telecom have $10TXT and a better coverage and usually better Customer relations..

Linux is great on a server in some tech's bedroom, but try and get a NEWB on it... scary.
"Where's the scanners and pictures wizard,,, Where's that puppy- in the search?



All have their plusses, all have their negatives, I'm unaffected by brand,, it's what works for me.

(Okay, An exception made for the All Blacks............ they rule.)



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Reply # 29149 23-Feb-2006 08:16
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A NEWB on Windows is just as scary as a NEWB on Linux. Maybe even moreso if you're the one that has to clean up afterward. At least with Linux, they're confused enough to minimize damage.

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Reply # 29165 23-Feb-2006 09:07
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Kiwi kids are Weet-bix kids..... (you know the tune...)




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Reply # 29337 25-Feb-2006 17:57
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tonyhughes: I prefer Holdens, but am selling all my vehicles and will just keep one of my Falcon utes...

Although I prefer the Holdens, I aint no fanboy, and in fact really just enjoy driving large vehicles (maybe because I am 6'7" tall....).

Firefox is okay - I like Opera better, but am currently using IE7 Beta.


Apparently the new VW beetle is very good for tall people, exceptional head room I’m told. I drive a large car simply because I have short-man syndrome and love the sound of a big V8.

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Reply # 29341 25-Feb-2006 19:01
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lyon_rouge: Apparently the new VW beetle is very good for tall people, exceptional head room I’m told. I drive a large car simply because I have short-man syndrome and love the sound of a big V8.


The cost of petrol must be painful for you, though. Whenever the price goes up, I think my lucky stars that I drive a mid sized Jap car and that I only travel 5000kms per year in it.

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Reply # 29349 25-Feb-2006 20:47
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***** OT alert *****

I have Two MR2's (1984's, Rear Wheel drive, Manuals, As good as a Corolla on Gas and pulls and drives like a HSV, shame they don't look the part.)

A 1992 Holden 3.8l Stationwagon, harldy used, Sold. Guzzeld the gas, but I LOVED that car.

A Mazda 626 Capella 1984, A stuffed rustbucket that also pulls like a V8. Front wheel Drive, Also drinks gas like a V8, Will be Scrapheaped or DemoDerbey'd

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Reply # 29368 26-Feb-2006 11:12
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alasta:
lyon_rouge: Apparently the new VW beetle is very good for tall people, exceptional head room I’m told. I drive a large car simply because I have short-man syndrome and love the sound of a big V8.


The cost of petrol must be painful for you, though. Whenever the price goes up, I think my lucky stars that I drive a mid sized Jap car and that I only travel 5000kms per year in it.


Yeah, at 22l/100km it can be a bit costly, but it's lots of fun. This is my second one, and it is slightly larger (6l vs 5.7l) but I actually get better fuel economy from it.

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Reply # 29371 26-Feb-2006 12:26
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Yeah... bleh to fuel prices....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/show_member_listings.asp?member=236841

Selling a V6 Commy, 4.1L Falcon, Ford Truck

Keeping a slightly worked 4.1 Falcon Ute (but is dual fuel)




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