Legal Defeat for Global Warming in Kiwigate Scandal

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Esterpester

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#69534 10-Oct-2010 12:41

http://www.suite101.com/content/legal-defeat-for-global-warming-in-kiwigate-scandal-a294157

Yet still the government wants to tax us. Hmm, something is amiss here.

I know there are dozens of sites protesting carbon taxes, and I have never been a militant sort but I am starting to think about buying a khaki jacket and tea towel scarf, tramp down to the beehive and demand an audience with........oh whatever !!

GST rises, emissions taxes. Just who's pocket does it go in ?

I bought a coffee from one of the roadside trucks the other day and they advertised their price increase from $3.50 to $4 due to the increase in GST. I had already paid by then, but was outraged and told them so.

Rant over

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#390134 10-Oct-2010 12:52

Esterpester:
http://www.suite101.com/content/legal-defeat-for-global-warming-in-kiwigate-scandal-a294157

Yet still the government wants to tax us. Hmm, something is amiss here.

I know there are dozens of sites protesting carbon taxes, and I have never been a militant sort but I am starting to think about buying a khaki jacket and tea towel scarf, tramp down to the beehive and demand an audience with........oh whatever !!

GST rises, emissions taxes. Just who's pocket does it go in ?

I bought a coffee from one of the roadside trucks the other day and they advertised their price increase from $3.50 to $4 due to the increase in GST. I had already paid by then, but was outraged and told them so.

Rant over

Hugs

Ester

Just arrived back from Aussie. Cheapest petrol price in Queensland was $AUD1.15 per litre. Why is it $1.81 per litre here.

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#390135 10-Oct-2010 12:52

Could you please point me in that article where they show a correlation between weather data manipulation and tax?

And prices raising more than the GST increase is not a government problem or tax issue. It's a problem of greed retailers.

This is my last post in this topic, because I can already it will go to the slippery slop of trolling and counter-trolling.

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#390138 10-Oct-2010 13:10

ajw:
Just arrived back from Aussie. Cheapest petrol price in Queensland was $AUD1.15 per litre. Why is it $1.81 per litre here.

Looking online now current weekend pricing is around A$1.27 per litre. That equates to NZ$1.65.

Due to differences in taxes etc there has been a variance of around 20c per litre in recent years, so right now it could be argued our pricing is pretty good right now. Based upon AIP data there has been an upward trend in pricing in the past week but MED data has showed importer margins getting close to 20c again.

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#390558 11-Oct-2010 17:05

freitasm:

This is my last post in this topic, because I can already it will go to the slippery slop of trolling and counter-trolling.

Slippery slops, and mangled grammar :-)

Sounds like the topic is making you somewhat tense ?

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#390572 11-Oct-2010 17:54

People don't seem to realise that we are blatantly being ripped off.

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#390576 11-Oct-2010 17:59

Esterpester:
I bought a coffee from one of the roadside trucks the other day and they advertised their price increase from $3.50 to $4 due to the increase in GST. I had already paid by then, but was outraged and told them so.

You told the wrong person. The Ministry of Consumer Affairs is very interested in these types of situations, as it violates the Fair Trading Act to lie about the reasons for the increase.

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#390588 11-Oct-2010 18:47

They don't call it the Emissions Trading "Scam" for nothing....

Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation

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#390772 12-Oct-2010 09:39

Has there been any reporting of this in the mainstream press ? Conspicuous by it's absence ...

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#391119 12-Oct-2010 23:01

They should make a tui billboard.

Global Warming is Real.. Yeah Right.

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#391129 12-Oct-2010 23:19

Taxing people will change the environment.

Bigger and bigger stimulus will fix the economy.

Human stupidity is infinite.

One out of the 3 statements is true.

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#391151 13-Oct-2010 02:42

DataCraft:

Taxing people will change the environment.

Bigger and bigger stimulus will fix the economy.

Human stupidity is infinite.

One out of the 3 statements is true.

No, all 4 statements are true.
Japan 100 years ago had the same population New Zealand has now.
We can conserve till every Greenie is happy, unfortunately it doesn't deal with the problem, which is our geometric population growth. With more people we have more energy requirements from limited non renewable resourses. Using only renewable energy wont work as that will just pump up the heat.
It is a very simple equation and nothing we do to address Global Warming can solve it, because GW, polution, poverty, and carbon taxes are just a sympton and not the cause.

The cause is US (not the United States idiot), and the solution is putting aside our differences and working together to use what energy reserves Earth has intelligently. The probably that will happen is so close to zero.....so bassically we're all gonna die!