29 Miners Stuck in West Coast

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#72098 20-Nov-2010 12:00

About 4PM Friday 19th Pike River Coal Mine suffered an explosion and 29 miners are trapped. Let's hope they can get out boys out safely!

I have been reading some opinions from people against mining which to me is not cool. Let's get them out first before we bitch and moan...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4365223/Police-boss-We-will-bring-miners-home

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#407060 20-Nov-2010 13:16

Heres hoping they all get out safely.

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#407097 20-Nov-2010 15:38

c71931f: I thought there was already a thread in regards to this....

I had a quick look and couldn't see one. URL?

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#407117 20-Nov-2010 17:11

nate:
c71931f: I thought there was already a thread in regards to this....

I had a quick look and couldn't see one. URL?

Deferent forum I'd guess, I've been looking too, this is the only one here that I can see.

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#407137 20-Nov-2010 18:30

Received from Telecom:

Telecom update on Pike River mine explosion

Telecom has offered any help and resources it can provide to assist the Pike River Mine explosion rescue effort.

Telecom is temporarily increasing existing mobile coverage in the mine region. Following consultation with the Pike River team, this is being installed in the valley leading to the mine and is expected to be operational by midday Sunday 21 November.

Telecom is also monitoring local mobile and broadband services to best manage capacity while there is significantly increased demand for telecommunications services due to the influx of people in the area.

Gen-i continues to provide close support to Pike River to ensure the company has the telecommunications and IT systems it requires for the rescue activity.

Telecom/Gen-i have also offered support to government and emergency services organisations.

We will extend every assistance we can to the affected families and volunteers, including free local, national and mobile calls during this difficult time.

We are committed to doing everything we possibly can to help, and our thoughts continue to be with the Pike River team and families, as well as everyone involved in the rescue effort.

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#407153 20-Nov-2010 19:06

+1 to Telecom, good on ya. same to Gen-i too

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#407161 20-Nov-2010 19:35

I'm getting a little concerned with the police down there sitting on their hands in the name of safety. What's wrong with sending in a couple of guys with good breathing gear like the firemen have on the train that they have in the mine to have a look. The longer they wait.. though I suspect by the force of the blast it may be all bad news. Hope I'm wrong..

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#407177 20-Nov-2010 21:22

If you still have an explosive atmosphere, then its considered too risky as you could easily set off another blast with any small ignition source. Frustrating, but the realities of mining. Its all too easy to imagine that people could just waltz in with proper breathing gear. Its a shame that hasnt been made more clear in the reporting as I wondered initially too.

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#407233 21-Nov-2010 08:34

old3eyes: I'm getting a little concerned with the police down there sitting on their hands in the name of safety.

Do you know anything about explosive atmospheres?

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#407244 21-Nov-2010 09:29

Dratsab:
old3eyes: I'm getting a little concerned with the police down there sitting on their hands in the name of safety.

Do you know anything about explosive atmospheres?

No. But it seems the NZ thing these days. Police super cautious and why exactly are the police in charge of this??

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#407245 21-Nov-2010 09:41

And who would be in charge?

a) The Labour Party
b) The NZSPCA
c) The New Zealand Army

Who should be in charge?

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#407265 21-Nov-2010 11:40

old3eyes:
Dratsab:
old3eyes: I'm getting a little concerned with the police down there sitting on their hands in the name of safety.

Do you know anything about explosive atmospheres?

No. But it seems the NZ thing these days. Police super cautious and why exactly are the police in charge of this??

If the original mine exploded through firedamp then sending down anyone else who could even make the slightest spark through static would be completely dangerous. Fire fighters are fine, they can produce static because they are usually going into fires. If the NZ thing is to keep rescuers safe instead of risking them for the remote possibility that others might be alive, then I'm proud to be a NZer.

Try searching google for "rescuers killed"...first result:
http://www.usmra.com/rescuer_deaths.htm
All to do with mining rescue fatalities

one of the most recent is also the most chilling:

Jim Walter Resources
No. 5 Mine Explosions
Brookwood, Alabama

13 People needing rescuing, 12 people died while rescuing in 2001

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#407274 21-Nov-2010 12:25

c71931f: I thought there was already a thread in regards to this....

... Who do you think you are? ...!

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#407285 21-Nov-2010 13:28

Why not send In some sort of Remotely Controlled Vechicle? Like a Rover-style car or a quadcopter, with a live video feed, so if anything explodes, no rescuers are hurt. They mention that there is some heat underground - would that ignite any gas?

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#407290 21-Nov-2010 13:36

leaplae: Why not send In some sort of Remotely Controlled Vechicle? Like a Rover-style car or a quadcopter, with a live video feed, so if anything explodes, no rescuers are hurt. They mention that there is some heat underground - would that ignite any gas?

And if the miners are still alive why risk another explosion that could potentially kill them? The Chilean miners survived over a week with no contact or support, hopefully our boys can do the same.

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#407297 21-Nov-2010 14:10

SteveON:
c71931f: I thought there was already a thread in regards to this....

... Who do you think you are? ...!

A fellow user, like you, who thought there was another thread that we could close to merge into this one.

Have you got an issue with this?

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