Remaining annonymous on the net

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# 80950 6-Apr-2011 14:58

Just been reading through the post on TOR and thought it might be interesting to have a discussion on how you would go about remaining annonymous on the net, all the way from using live cd's / virtual machines, proxies, vpn's etc to borrowing your neighbours wifi (theoretical discussion of course so I guess legal / non legal means are acceptable to talk about / mods?).

If you wanted to stay hidden and didnt want anything tracked back to you, how would you do it?

(NB: no Im not a terrorist, kiddie fiddler, member of parliment or contestant in masterchef. Discussion is merely for interest)

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# 455986 6-Apr-2011 15:21

Prepay SIM in a 3G stick...... do my sneaky business, burn SIM and stick. Done.

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# 455989 6-Apr-2011 15:29

I hadn't actually thought of a prepay SIM & 3G stick. That is a good one.

For remaining anonymous from most people a simple throwaway e-mail address and VPN will work just fine.

Probably the best way to remain anonymous is to not draw the attention of authorities (be that legal or ISP) and most people will ignore you :)

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# 455991 6-Apr-2011 15:30

evidence left on computer? Bank trail from prepay sim, security footage of from where it was bought? I think you would need to dress up in a full burka thing to buy the sim. Use cash or a prepaid credit card to purchase it, use a linux live cd to do said dirty business (making sure you change your mac address) and then as you say destroy sim, mobile stick and maybe laptop for good measure. Wait for a week and then change out of burka?

Flaws in this plan?

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# 455996 6-Apr-2011 15:47

You said on the net, not buying the gear to be anonymous on the net ;)

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# 456008 6-Apr-2011 16:11

From a basic point of view, Scroogle and Ixquick can stop some of the tracking whist searching online

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# 456009 6-Apr-2011 16:25

It's so much more than search. And that. Or that...

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# 456021 6-Apr-2011 16:56

steal someone nearbys wireless to get online, computer from recycled parts (from dumpster or something, so no one sees you taking them), live OS with no HDD on the computer. When done, burn the CD and computer and throw the ash's into the ocean on a stormy day.

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# 456030 6-Apr-2011 17:18

tardtasticx: steal someone nearbys wireless to get online,.

Very naughty tisk tisk..

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# 456058 6-Apr-2011 18:46

tardtasticx: steal someone nearbys wireless to get online...

Wouldn't it be more anonymous to just go down to the nearest Starbucks or McDonalds and get online there? Easier on your poor neighbours too

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# 456069 6-Apr-2011 19:23

Elpie:
tardtasticx: steal someone nearbys wireless to get online...

Wouldn't it be more anonymous to just go down to the nearest Starbucks or McDonalds and get online there? Easier on your poor neighbours too

Nah, because then you're on their security cameras, your credit card will be on file with your name, or your finger prints on the cash you use. Plus the people in the store can see you. Lol

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# 456070 6-Apr-2011 19:27

most maccers and starbucks have video cameras in them. If what you were doing was particularly bad then the ip could be traced back to the store, time of the aforementioned naughty incident compared with video footage and then a list of potential suspects compiled (insert face into crimewatch tv show here). Hence the need for a burka.

Was discussing this at work this avo and the only common consensus reached so far was that you would have to start off by flying to a nigerian internet cafe and go from there. i.e. the place that authorities seem least interested in trying to catch you.

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# 456081 6-Apr-2011 19:52

prepay sim could be trackable back through the point of purchase.

Especially if you used a credit card.

Wouldnt be hard for the point of sale to store the credit card/imei relation.

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# 456330 7-Apr-2011 11:58

Hmm, as for prepay SIMs I know that most stores do not actually store the IMEI against customer credit card details. I know for a fact that JB Hi-Fi does not and would assume other stores would find it a hassle to record this information.

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# 456460 7-Apr-2011 16:24

1080p: Hmm, as for prepay SIMs I know that most stores do not actually store the IMEI against customer credit card details. I know for a fact that JB Hi-Fi does not and would assume other stores would find it a hassle to record this information.

Im sure if what the person did was bad enough, they could find out what sim was being used, go to the store find out what time that was sold, go through their sales records and find out who purchased it at what time and with what card etc....

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# 456467 7-Apr-2011 16:38

tardtasticx:
1080p: Hmm, as for prepay SIMs I know that most stores do not actually store the IMEI against customer credit card details. I know for a fact that JB Hi-Fi does not and would assume other stores would find it a hassle to record this information.

Im sure if what the person did was bad enough, they could find out what sim was being used, go to the store find out what time that was sold, go through their sales records and find out who purchased it at what time and with what card etc....

Really dont think your local dairy would bother holding onto that info or worry about who it was sold to. Especially when a lot of the local dairys around here have multiple family members looking after the shop, they wouldnt have a clue what time a purchase was made really.

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