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#1440132 3-Dec-2015 20:00

I haven't had ADSL at my new place. Since most of my traffic is downstream. The 3Mbps gain is meaningless. The 25Mbps drop is of more concern, hence I don't agree with the maths presented

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#1440144 3-Dec-2015 20:30

To me that speed at 15.5db seems very strange...

considering I am on 15.9db @ 61/13!!!

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#1440145 3-Dec-2015 20:31

so at your current place you had 38mbps or was this a different place?

you cannot compare different premises, sooooooooooooooo many different factors can influence the performance

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#1440149 3-Dec-2015 20:37

woollettg: Not I don't have the option for fibre for another 2 years. Could do Vodafone cable but I have no respect for them as a provider. ....

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

Despite all of the very real and severe problems with cable congestion experienced earlier this year (see the Krapi Cable congestion thread where I complain regularly

), following the October upgrade HFC cable is now vastly superior to xDSL, even on a bad day. (I've lived with both for several years - cable plus xDSL backup - at the same Wellington address.)

We don't get fibre until 2019/2020, but I'll be quite happy with HFC at least until then - upgrading to gigabit cable at the earliest opportunity.
If it works, I'd be tempted to stick with cable.

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#1440159 3-Dec-2015 20:59

I really like to see the OP's line speed. FOr all you know that was a speedtest done on distant wifi.

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#1440161 3-Dec-2015 21:00

@johnr did you disable the robot?

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#1440164 3-Dec-2015 21:04

The speed was as reported by the VDSL modem.

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#1440168 3-Dec-2015 21:14

As a closing remark its worth mentioning that I showed the chorus guy the live modem info and having ruled out my household wiring as an issue he said there was nothing more he could do...

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#1440176 3-Dec-2015 21:36

johnr: Disputes Tribunal? Working broadband in spec

Consider yourself lucky you are not connected to a Conklin cabinet, These end users would love to swap with you and maybe give up first child for it

John

Edit: Your connection speed far exceeds minimum requirements

The op is on vdsl, so I'm pretty sure you are wrong johnr.

Chorus set a minimum sync rate of 15Mbps for vdsl. If the op isn't getting that he is within his rights to request a move back to ADSL.
ISP should oblige.

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#1440178 3-Dec-2015 21:40

NonprayingMantis:
johnr: Disputes Tribunal? Working broadband in spec

Consider yourself lucky you are not connected to a Conklin cabinet, These end users would love to swap with you and maybe give up first child for it

John

Edit: Your connection speed far exceeds minimum requirements

The op is on vdsl, so I'm pretty sure you are wrong johnr.

Chorus set a minimum sync rate of 15Mbps for vdsl. If the op isn't getting that he is within his rights to request a move back to ADSL.
ISP should oblige.

I have already advised this but then they lose uplink speed and might gain a bit in downlink

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#1440211 3-Dec-2015 23:29

10/4 to my mind suggests something is odd. usually on really long connections the upload is much lower than that.

you can't compare attenuation between adsl and vdsl. there have been some upgrades recently happening which improves download speed, and if your cabinet hasn't been done yet then your speeds may go up.

posting modem stats could be interesting.

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#1440258 4-Dec-2015 07:13

NonprayingMantis:

Chorus set a minimum sync rate of 15Mbps for vdsl. If the op isn't getting that he is within his rights to request a move back to ADSL.
ISP should oblige.

The 15/5 minimum sync rate went a long time ago. It's now best effort.

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#1440260 4-Dec-2015 07:22

It went for a obvious reason. It cost them money. Stuff the customer.

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#1440264 4-Dec-2015 07:50

you have 2 choices

live with what you have as they have looked into pretty much everything

or go back to ADSL

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#1440267 4-Dec-2015 07:57

Why would you go back to ADSL? Isn't it the same price? ADSL would be a downgrade, no?

As someone who has lived with 6/0.5 for the last 5 years, OP's moaning is a bit eye-roll-worthy. Comparing two entirely different addresses and throwing his/her toys when the speeds are unequal is idiotic.

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