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#2085385 7-Sep-2018 09:59

Tomahawk66:
Linux: You have choices to provide mobile coverage VodafoneNZ sells Sure Signal and 2degrees offers Wi-Fi calling

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So I would have to buy this thing (which I can't afford to do) and then change ISP from Spark to Vodafone for this thing to work?

Sure Signal will work on any fixed NZ ISP connection now and has for a few years

I have seen Sure Signal units for Sale on Trademe as low as $60

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#2085386 7-Sep-2018 10:00

Not sure if sure signal or wifi calling makes sense considering one of the OPs main concerns is "something happens to fibre connection and I have no way to call ISP..." - something happening to fibre will take down sure signal or wifi calling surely? (unless they're operating at a lower layer than the issue?)

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Tomahawk66:

My concern is that if I get fibre installed, have issues with it, and those issues prevent the land line from operating I therefore can't even contact the provider to get it fixed.

Is this a valid concern?

If your copper landline went down you would face the same issue,

Fibre is generally regarded as more reliable than the copper network.....but if you are concerned about it buy a cheap prepaid phone and keep it in your car glove box... when your hardline (copper or fibre) fails, drive until you can find coverage and call your provider.....

This is a good point though - if something happened to your copper line you would be in the same predicament and I would still argue fibre is more reliable. It's not clear if OP is in a position to drive somewhere with coverage, so prepay in glovebox may not be practical.

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#2085403 7-Sep-2018 10:19

Tomahawk66:

Thanks for your reply. I've never had a problem, not once, with my copper landline and adsl broadband service.

No mobile company has decent coverage where I am. I've been to all of them. If I was lucky I could get a text message sometimes. A phone call would come through but immediately disconnect when I tried talking. My old cell phone spent all its time searching for service. My neighbour got fibre put in and I let them put it in on my side of the boundary fence. The two chorus guys, one out on street and one in my garden couldn't talk to each other on their mobiles.... I think they were even shocked.

Are you saying that if the fibre connection did drop out then, I definitely wouldn't have a landline to use?

Yes, I guess if it the fibre did drop out, you would have no phone service. Having said that, I have had fibre for coming up on 5 years now, and I have never experienced an outage. I think I have had two power cuts in that time. Both times I only had a cordless phone which relies on mains power, so even if my phoneline had been on copper (and therefore unaffected by power cuts) I still would not have been able to actually use the phone anyway.

It's also worth noting that having a copper phone line does not guarantee you 100% uptime either. You are still at the mercy of batteries and backup generators at the phone exchange or roadside cabinets.

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#2085409 7-Sep-2018 10:25

Hi @Tomahawk66, if you've got WiFi at home coverage is not an issue with WiFi Calling, exclusive to 2degrees - WiFi Calling

PM us if you need any help coming over.

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#2085423 7-Sep-2018 10:49

I am in Indonesia at the moment on Holiday and Wi-Fi calling is fantastic for free roaming as well

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#2085516 7-Sep-2018 11:15

2degreesCare:
Hi @Tomahawk66, if you've got WiFi at home coverage is not an issue with WiFi Calling, exclusive to 2degrees - WiFi Calling

PM us if you need any help coming over.

Cheers

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I think in your posts advertising this service you should at least mention not every mobile handset supports this, as my Oppo r11s does not support it also the original post was if the fibre goes down how will calls be made, which means wifi will go down and this service becomes no use.

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#2085520 7-Sep-2018 11:21

epr:
2degreesCare:
Hi @Tomahawk66, if you've got WiFi at home coverage is not an issue with WiFi Calling, exclusive to 2degrees - WiFi Calling

PM us if you need any help coming over.

Cheers

^POB

I think in your posts advertising this service you should at least mention not every mobile handset supports this, as my Oppo r11s does not support it also the original post was if the fibre goes down how will calls be made, which means wifi will go down and this service becomes no use.

Dude take a chill pill @2degreescare linked off to the Wi-Fi calling web page that contains that information

You need to stop going on about if xyz goes down service will not work sounds like you are just moaning for the sake of moaning when people are trying to help you

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#2085534 7-Sep-2018 11:55

Fiber has been very reliable for me. Get a Vodafone SureSignal and you'll be fine for cell. There's no need to turn a router off when it's not in use.

You can use a Sentry Lite as a DC UPS for your router to enable phone during power outages. I have the smaller one that you can plug any battery into. I have a small solar panel and a few 30AH batteries so if there's an extended outage I can power my router, charge batteries, charge phones, that kind of thing. Probably overkill but good peace of mind for an earthquake prone country.

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#2085547 7-Sep-2018 12:18

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epr:
2degreesCare:

Hi @Tomahawk66, if you've got WiFi at home coverage is not an issue with WiFi Calling, exclusive to 2degrees - WiFi Calling

PM us if you need any help coming over.

Cheers

^POB

I think in your posts advertising this service you should at least mention not every mobile handset supports this, as my Oppo r11s does not support it also the original post was if the fibre goes down how will calls be made, which means wifi will go down and this service becomes no use.

Dude take a chill pill @2degreescare linked off to the Wi-Fi calling web page that contains that information

You need to stop going on about if xyz goes down service will not work sounds like you are just moaning for the sake of moaning when people are trying to help you

John

Umm John, I didn't post this. I realise people are trying to help me and I am grateful for that.

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#2085548 7-Sep-2018 12:21

Tomahawk66:
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epr:
2degreesCare:

Hi @Tomahawk66, if you've got WiFi at home coverage is not an issue with WiFi Calling, exclusive to 2degrees - WiFi Calling

PM us if you need any help coming over.

Cheers

^POB

I think in your posts advertising this service you should at least mention not every mobile handset supports this, as my Oppo r11s does not support it also the original post was if the fibre goes down how will calls be made, which means wifi will go down and this service becomes no use.

Dude take a chill pill @2degreescare linked off to the Wi-Fi calling web page that contains that information

You need to stop going on about if xyz goes down service will not work sounds like you are just moaning for the sake of moaning when people are trying to help you

John

Umm John, I didn't post this. I realise people are trying to help me and I am grateful for that.

I'm aware who posted it and I know it was not you

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#2085550 7-Sep-2018 12:22

Tomahawk66:

I turn the router off as why have it on using power and possibly getting warm when it doesn't need to be. I turn everything off if it isn't used.

wouldn't that screw up your sync speed?

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#2085551 7-Sep-2018 12:23

2degreesCare:

Hi @Tomahawk66, if you've got WiFi at home coverage is not an issue with WiFi Calling, exclusive to 2degrees - WiFi Calling

PM us if you need any help coming over.

Cheers

^POB

Thanks but I currently use an ethernet cable and want to continue doing that.

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#2085554 7-Sep-2018 12:29

nitro:
Tomahawk66:

I turn the router off as why have it on using power and possibly getting warm when it doesn't need to be. I turn everything off if it isn't used.

wouldn't that screw up your sync speed?

I sense Tin foil hat lol

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#2085589 7-Sep-2018 12:36

Wheelbarrow01:

Yes, I guess if it the fibre did drop out, you would have no phone service. Having said that, I have had fibre for coming up on 5 years now, and I have never experienced an outage. I think I have had two power cuts in that time. Both times I only had a cordless phone which relies on mains power, so even if my phoneline had been on copper (and therefore unaffected by power cuts) I still would not have been able to actually use the phone anyway.

It's also worth noting that having a copper phone line does not guarantee you 100% uptime either. You are still at the mercy of batteries and backup generators at the phone exchange or roadside cabinets.

I have an old fashioned plug in the wall phone that will work in a power cut precisely for this reason..... not having cell phone coverage at my house. This old phone sits beside my powered cordless one. I am totally aware that there are some instances where by the copper line system could also fail.

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#2085592 7-Sep-2018 12:40

nitro:

Tomahawk66:

I turn the router off as why have it on using power and possibly getting warm when it doesn't need to be. I turn everything off if it isn't used.

wouldn't that screw up your sync speed?

Sync speed of what? I use one desk top computer, that's it.

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