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  #2343042 24-Oct-2019 14:36
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Is your line being fed by WEN/J? (corner of hot water beach and link road)




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  #2343217 24-Oct-2019 19:39
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One can typically squeeze a few extra % (<10%) of a DSL/UFB connection by using an ISP who offers IPoE instead of PPPoE. But at your connection speed it ain't going to be worth it.





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  #2343292 24-Oct-2019 21:11
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MichaelNZ:

 

One can typically squeeze a few extra % (<10%) of a DSL/UFB connection by using an ISP who offers IPoE instead of PPPoE. But at your connection speed it ain't going to be worth it.

 

 

an extra 8 bytes is hardly going to stack up that much.

 

 

 

Plus with this customer it's a EUBA0 line. they are better off using PPPoA rather than Tagged IPoE.





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  #2343293 24-Oct-2019 21:13
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hio77:

 

MichaelNZ:

 

One can typically squeeze a few extra % (<10%) of a DSL/UFB connection by using an ISP who offers IPoE instead of PPPoE. But at your connection speed it ain't going to be worth it.

 

 

an extra 8 bytes is hardly going to stack up that much.

 

 

It's more than that due to the PPP processing overhead.





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  #2343296 24-Oct-2019 21:17
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MichaelNZ:

 

hio77:

 

MichaelNZ:

 

One can typically squeeze a few extra % (<10%) of a DSL/UFB connection by using an ISP who offers IPoE instead of PPPoE. But at your connection speed it ain't going to be worth it.

 

 

an extra 8 bytes is hardly going to stack up that much.

 

 

It's more than that due to the PPP processing overhead.

 

 

8 bytes is the PPPoE overhead. the tagging has to be there for IPoE on chorus network for DSL too.





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  #2343344 25-Oct-2019 05:36
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atomeara:

 

I assume you are on SH25 or Purangi Rd areas?

 

I am looking at rural fibre for someone on Purangi Rd at the moment, it is an estimate install of 10k.

 

Is this something you might be interested in?

 

 

I am on SH25 between Whenuakite and Coroglen.  Would be interested if it was 10k.

 

There is fibre cable in front of the property BUT I understand it is distribution fibre connecting the Whenuakite and Coroglen exchanges (and Coroglen school).  I have a quote from 4 to 5 years ago for 90k.  The cost is that much because as I understand it there is no infrastructure in either the Whenuakite or Coroglen exchanges and the nearest join in the distribution fibre is over 1km away.  chorusnz did have a look and as I understand there has not been any changes that would result in a significant reduction in cost.

 

The cable on Purangi Rd was installed a couple of years ago and therefore is most likely micoduct so I assume cheaper for an install.





 

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  #2343345 25-Oct-2019 05:42
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halper86:

 

Is your line being fed by WEN/J? (corner of hot water beach and link road)

 

 

 

 

No feed from the Whenuakite exchange 'hut' on corner of Hot Water Beach Road and SH25.   I am on SH25 between Whenuakite and Coroglen opposite Te Kauanga Road.





 

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  #2343502 25-Oct-2019 13:34
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There's some RBI fibre (presumably NGA/GPON) a couple of km away but the problem is the fibre going past your address appears to have a very low fibre count, so unless there is duct we don't know about, getting access to that fibre is probably a no go.

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  #2343534 25-Oct-2019 15:00
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godber:

 

atomeara:

 

I assume you are on SH25 or Purangi Rd areas?

 

I am looking at rural fibre for someone on Purangi Rd at the moment, it is an estimate install of 10k.

 

Is this something you might be interested in?

 

 

I am on SH25 between Whenuakite and Coroglen.  Would be interested if it was 10k.

 

There is fibre cable in front of the property BUT I understand it is distribution fibre connecting the Whenuakite and Coroglen exchanges (and Coroglen school).  I have a quote from 4 to 5 years ago for 90k.  The cost is that much because as I understand it there is no infrastructure in either the Whenuakite or Coroglen exchanges and the nearest join in the distribution fibre is over 1km away.  chorusnz did have a look and as I understand there has not been any changes that would result in a significant reduction in cost.

 

The cable on Purangi Rd was installed a couple of years ago and therefore is most likely micoduct so I assume cheaper for an install.

 

 

A Nokia ISAM for GPON / NGA / UFB (call it what you will) was recently (this year or late last year) installed in Whenuakite Exchagne, it is feeding Whenuakite school now.

 

The Seeka Peninsula Packhouse and Coolstore is in the process of getting fibre (NGA/UFB) installed currently. I would say it will be live before Christmas.

 

So yes some things have changed, I am not 100% sure on the cost to install an ISAM node (I think ballpark 30-50k)

A quick loook on the maps there is a 6.7km run of fibre from the exchange to Kapowai River, 1km from there to the start of Rangiahu Rd (where there is a break out of fibre to the school). It then runs 2.6km up Rangiahu Rd to the Broadband cabinet.

 

Everything west of Kapowai runs off the Coroglen Broadband cabinet and everything east appears to go back to the Whenuakite exchange.

 

If you want to DM me your address I can ask Chorus for a desktop estimate.

 

 

 

Blue/Green lines are fibre.

 

Blue square is broadband cabinet / exchange

 

Green dots are NGA/UFB (which is both schools and the packhouse - packhouse only has 1 connection going in but they mark all dots within the property boundary as capable hence the 5 dots.)
Coroglen School doesn't have NGA/UFB, it is on a different type of Fibre (NGA Point to point which is basically HSNS Fibre Lite off the cabinet, Whenuakite was the same until UFB/NGA was put in recently)

 

Yellow ADSL 2+

 

Purple VDSL (not 100% accurate around Coroglen, many of the dots that show yellow for ADSL 2+ can actually get VDSL but a manual feasibility would need to be submitted)

 

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  #2343581 25-Oct-2019 17:31
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godber:

halper86:


Is your line being fed by WEN/J? (corner of hot water beach and link road)



 


No feed from the Whenuakite exchange 'hut' on corner of Hot Water Beach Road and SH25.   I am on SH25 between Whenuakite and Coroglen opposite Te Kauanga Road.



Just looked at it on google maps, I am impressed they fit the Exchange Equipment, the MDF, and ISAMs. in that tiny building and keep everything cool




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