Need a new ISP that does not use CGNAT, or that offers static IPs. Recommendations?

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#2731763 20-Jun-2021 21:26

2degrees is excellent technically and excellent service, but you pay $10/month for a static IP - you get IP4 and IP6 if you ask for that price.

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#2731778 20-Jun-2021 23:39

Depending on who your mobile is with, consider 2degrees + the $10 Static IP addon. If your mobile is on-account with them you save $10/mo off your broadband which covers the Static IP. You also get a Static /56 IPv6 allocation. This means it is either $90/mo or $100/mo (without mobile). The router they provide is also very good.

Else Voyager are incredibly good - $99/mo for Gigabit + $14.95 once-off for a Static IP (put in the notes if you want IPv6 + a /56 allocation free of charge).

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#2731813 21-Jun-2021 07:42

michaelmurfy:

Else Voyager are incredibly good - $99/mo for Gigabit + $14.95 once-off for a Static IP (put in the notes if you want IPv6 + a /58 allocation free of charge).

Don't go Vodafone...

Did you intend to write /56 for Voyager too, or has this changed?

My allocation from late '18 is a /56.

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#2731839 21-Jun-2021 08:38

I don't think you'll find Vodafone recommended or given "the all-clear" by anyone on here. I'd suggest Voyager or 2degrees. Bigpipe is an option, but no phone support.

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#2731846 21-Jun-2021 09:03

BarTender:
I’m on 2D with a free static but if I was going to get charged a premium for it I would be moving. They have worked as expected and I have had to call them… ever. So email support doesn’t sound like too much of an issue.

Sure, but you aren't your typical user, and have more experience and expertise so email support only is less of an issue.

I was simply making sure the OP knew that this is something that is different between Bp and the other offerings.

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#2731858 21-Jun-2021 09:24

SirHumphreyAppleby:

Did you intend to write /56 for Voyager too, or has this changed?

Nobody saw anything ;)

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#2731912 21-Jun-2021 09:45

Another vote for Voyager. Once-off minimal fee to assign a static IPv4 and IPv6 (if requested).

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#2731914 21-Jun-2021 09:47

I'd recommend orcon over voyager. Been with both and found orcon gigabit is faster and has much lower ping for gaming.

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#2731932 21-Jun-2021 10:34

Interesting comments here - it appears that Seeby Woodhouse started Orcon many years ago and then sold it to Kordia (fully NZ govt. owned) and then went on to start Voyager.

Based on the good comments here, the man must have a magic touch. (except with women)

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#2731936 21-Jun-2021 10:48

shrub: I'd recommend orcon over voyager. Been with both and found orcon gigabit is faster and has much lower ping for gaming.

"ping for gaming" depends on the direction of the wind, how you hold your tongue and if it is raining or not. All ISP's are different here and there is no right ISP here. There will be some days where Voyager is better for example. Same goes for speed of a service - we've got it very lucky here in NZ.

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#2731999 21-Jun-2021 11:48

shrub: I'd recommend orcon over voyager. Been with both and found orcon gigabit is faster and has much lower ping for gaming.

Really depends on what path it takes.

However, I'd be surprised if there was much differance.
My latency dropped moving from spark to voyager.

Their mix of upstream providers seem to generally land a good mix.

Personally I go voyager, I've just grown to really like their onto it support folk. Works well for family members, there's someone who will fix the problem on the phone that's not me!

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#2732022 21-Jun-2021 12:55

I’m on 2D with a free static but if I was going to get charged a premium for it I would be moving. They have worked as expected and I have had to call them… ever. So email support doesn’t sound like too much of an issue.

I have a feeling the free static for 2Degrees is only for customers who were with them prior to them using CG-NAT and found they had issues with the new setup.

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#2732028 21-Jun-2021 13:08

Varkk:

I have a feeling the free static for 2Degrees is only for customers who were with them prior to them using CG-NAT and found they had issues with the new setup.

Correct - I'd say there is almost no chance of getting a free Static now.

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#2732031 21-Jun-2021 13:12

Not mentioned but Trustpower also allow you to opt-out of CGNAT for free and do v6. They have a significant amount of v4 space as the majority of their customers don't need a public IP.

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#2732032 21-Jun-2021 13:13

So if you have a mobile with 2DM, then go with them.

If not, then Voyager for standard connections, or Big Pipe if you want a better uplink such as 100/100.

Voyager have been saying for a long time now they're looking into better uplink rates, but never seems to have happened :(

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