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#3272411 16-Aug-2024 11:43

jrdobbs:

I could possibly get away with a 300/100 plan but for the difference in cost each month it's hardly worth it.

I started on gigabit but downgraded to 300/100 after a year or so as every extra dollar ploughed into the mortgage means less interest paid for the remaining term of the loan.

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#3272412 16-Aug-2024 11:44

Looking at the map, what surprises me is the amount of FWA in urban areas.

From clicking around a random sample of suburbs in Auckland, most seem to have around 10 - 12% FWA.

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#3272413 16-Aug-2024 11:56

And lots of copper still in the Auckland CBD. Lots of apartment buildings where installing fibre is both a low priority for the owners and impossible for the tenants.

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#3272514 16-Aug-2024 12:37

cddt:

Looking at the map, what surprises me is the amount of FWA in urban areas.

From clicking around a random sample of suburbs in Auckland, most seem to have around 10 - 12% FWA.

A lot of these are low users for which FWA is a good option for them. My mother is a good example, only uses internet for email, reading the news and the occasional Netflix. She could 'upgrade' to fibre but hardly worth it for the extra monthly cost which offers zero benefits for her use case. FWA served from a Spark cell site directly across the road from her house that has carriers in all bands (700/1800/2100/2300/2600) so no concern re QOS etc even during peak times.

Comes at no surprise to me. Not everyone needs fibre.

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#3272527 16-Aug-2024 13:56

tim0001:

Is streaming 4k content a common thing? (Genuine question because I don't know)

Perhaps? Youtube will do it, and I think the likes of Netflix too, but will charge extra.

Even if so, the number of households with multiple 4K TVs being used simultaneously or computers with 4K displays is still fairly small, and the streams should degrade fairly smoothly to lower bitrate.

That's only going to be an issue on the very budget 50/10 plans. 100 or 300 should be fine.

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#3272590 16-Aug-2024 14:58

tim0001:
Is streaming 4k content a common thing? (Genuine question because I don't know)

That’d be a yes. 4K tellies are super common nowadays as is built-in youtube playback.

Those that upgrade to 4K on Netflix etc would be variable

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#3272597 16-Aug-2024 15:37

openmedia:

Running a couple of 4k streams in a household with multiple TVs will easily start to cause problems

3 simultaneous Netflix 4K streams + a bit of extra on a 50Mb/s connection. https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

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#3272609 16-Aug-2024 16:11

jrdobbs:

.... Nobody on hyperfibre yet either which is a surprise too.

Possibly not 100% accurate, I noticed in my area, I am on a hyperfibre, have been for a while, and it shows as 0.0%, but based on 1 connection out of the 749 they counted that would make it 0.1% ?

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#3272676 16-Aug-2024 19:18

map cant be that accurate, says no one in my area is on HF but 3 people on my street alone are on HF including me and have been for over 6months

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#3273020 17-Aug-2024 19:52

Mikek:

map cant be that accurate, says no one in my area is on HF but 3 people on my street alone are on HF including me and have been for over 6months

Its missing a lot of data

Our rural fibre coverage isnt shown on it.

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#3273372 19-Aug-2024 09:33

Auckland Airport does not have fibre yet the page states otherwise.

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#3273410 19-Aug-2024 11:46

MadEngineer: Auckland Airport does not have fibre yet the page states otherwise.

Wait, what?

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#3273608 19-Aug-2024 20:34

MadEngineer: Auckland Airport does not have fibre yet the page states otherwise.

I can see

Its in the UFB zone
Chorus has a 96F cable going north and a 48F and a 24F going East though those cables are non-UFB funded, they are chorus self-funded or historic cables.
All, if not almost all of the SAM location ID's showing as UFB available are tagged with Consent: Declined

I just checked a bunch of SAM locations and none of them have chorus ONTs installed.
So it seems auckland airport may be supplying internet to the tenants, or they have a deal with vector fibre - I dont have access to vector fibre maps to check.
I would say airways or a few government departments might be using the chorus fiber as they may have historic HSNS connections. I am pretty sure of this as there are a few buildings which have small 6F/8F/12F cables running to them from splicing pits but no UFB SAM ID so they havent been converted yet to a gpon service but may have been converted to bitstream 4 - though those arent showing either when i look up the SAM IDs.

It seems weird because although i dont live in auckland, I imagine they are promoting it as a business park so you would think they would be installing ducts or a fiber service for the tenants as the type of businesses that move into business parks tend to want something better than DSL. So auckland airport might be monopolizing the ISP service to some degree there.

Edit: I found this and a couple of other public documents describing their investment planning
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vector-communications-ltd_connectivity-aucklandairport-vectorfibre-activity-7074932719075368961-_7MO?trk=public_profile_like_view

Looks like they have a deal with Vector Fibre where an ISP can order a vector fibre circuit which is handed over to the airport IT department and then auckland airport's own campus network will deliver the circuit to the tenancy.

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#3273622 19-Aug-2024 21:07

Mikek:

map cant be that accurate, says no one in my area is on HF but 3 people on my street alone are on HF including me and have been for over 6months

As per the ComCom webpage - "The primary purpose of the map is to provide a view of connectivity in New Zealand at a point in time - all the data is as at 30 June 2023."

The views expressed by me are not necessarily those of my employer Chorus NZ Ltd

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#3274929 24-Aug-2024 13:04

freitasm:

MadEngineer: Auckland Airport does not have fibre yet the page states otherwise.

Wait, what?

Looks like someone's listening. The coverage map on various websites previously showed fibre stopped at southern Mangere and didn't reach into the greater Airport area.

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