In a beach town can someone please describe how this antenna works to provide us with internet?

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#3324285 24-Dec-2024 20:41

quickymart:

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Still not "the West Coast" 😉 that's a definitive region. They are two quite different places. I think you mean west Auckland coast (or West Auckland coastline).

They didn't say "The" West Coast, though.

Its a beach town on the western coast of NZ. "In a West Coast beach town"

"the West Coast" or "a West Coast beach town" - they mean the same thing to me. As a local, I speak from experience.

Sorry I don't mean to nitpick but as someone from the actual West Coast (of the SI) I find it frustrating when people (not necessarily the OP) say "oh, I'm in a town on the Coast" or "West Coast" and it's actually nowhere near the proper Coast - encompassing Westport, Greymouth, Hokitika, etc.

If they were in Oakura (also a town on the "West Coast" - but in Taranaki) I would say something similar too.

Us Coasters are quite pedantic on this sort of thing, trust me...and I'm sure I'm not the only Coaster on here who would say the same thing.

There is more than one part of NZ with a West Coast, so while you may not like it, people can say a west coast town without you needing to take offence or correct them.

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#3324287 24-Dec-2024 20:43

Capitalised like that, it refers to the West Coast of the South Island. And as someone born and raised there, I feel I'm perfectly entitled to correct someone if they may have misunderstood, thanks.

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#3324291 24-Dec-2024 21:20

quickymart:

Capitalised like that, it refers to the West Coast of the South Island. And as someone born and raised there, I feel I'm perfectly entitled to correct someone if they may have misunderstood, thanks.

As someone born and raised an orarian resident of an occidental region of New Zealand (not to be confused with The Occident), it is confusing without context but in everyday speech locals will use the geographic descriptor to refer to the watershed, harbours and coast in our own district where the sun sets over sea.

For further examples along that shore, see:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22west+coast%22+northland+nz

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22west+coast%22+auckland+nz&num=10

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22west+coast%22+waikato+nz&num=10

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22west+coast%22+taranaki+nz&num=10

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22west+coast%22+wanganui+nz&num=10

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22west+coast%22+kapiti+nz&num=10

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22west+coast%22+%22tasman%22+nz&num=10

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22west+coast%22+%22fiordland%22+nz&num=10

Maybe reviving Westland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Province or being more proactive about using Te Tai Poutini would aid in elucidation.

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#3324294 24-Dec-2024 22:00

rhy7s:

Maybe reviving Westland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Province ...

I think Buller residents would have something to say about that 😀

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#3324296 24-Dec-2024 22:16

To me, this looks like a private CPE installation of 2 external APs (ubiquiti nanostation M2) with 53* sector stepping. I would expect commercial installations to be higher than on a flat roof.

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#3324303 24-Dec-2024 23:15

'West Coast' is a formal geographic region with a district council.

'Northland' is at least both a suburb (in Wellington) and a region with its own council. Unless context demanded otherwise (e.g. heading to Northland for lunch from Karori), I'd assume the region was meant.

Doubly so for 'West Coast', where the Auckland option isn't even formally defined.

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#3324305 24-Dec-2024 23:39

Those are nanostation ethernet bridge radios which used to be used to connect ethernet networks between buildings before 60ghz high speed radios came about.

I am keen to know more about the installation quality....
Have a look for me on the back from the ground and see if you can spot the LED lights near the top rear of each radio.
If the installer did their job properly, they would have squirted some transparent roofing silicone over the colored lights.
They should have also used metal hose clamps instead of plastic cable ties.
If not, tell the owner of the holiday park they can extend the life of those radios by an extra 5 years if they do those two things.

Anyhow, they point at another radio of a similar model where the internet comes from.
The upstream radio connects to the ethernet switch or router which in turn goes out to the internet via a DSL, Fiber, etc connection.

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#3325203 28-Dec-2024 08:24

Karekare used to have its own wireless isp as chorus/spark didn’t want to put adsl down there (this is 10+ years ago)

it ran from a bunch of adsl/vdsl points on the ridge (the road to Piha) and then did point to point down the valleys.

I think it was run by someone who lived there and worked for Auckland uni. Not sure tho. We bid for a house down the bottom, and another on top of the ridge, so of course that was the first thing to investigate 😎

no idea if it’s still there, got replaced with fibre, got sold…

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#3325209 28-Dec-2024 08:48

I cannot speak to the technical aspect required of this thread, but I can chuck my 2 cents worth in on the other.

The area in red is West Coast (note capital letters), often prefixed with "the" or "a", like Wairarapa, Hawke's Bay, Bay of Plenty etc.

The green line indicates the west coast (no capital letters) of New Zealand.

So a west coast beach town could be anywhere on the green line, and a West Coast beach town must be where the green line and red region coincide.

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#3325213 28-Dec-2024 09:08

nic.wise:

Karekare used to have its own wireless isp as chorus/spark didn’t want to put adsl down there (this is 10+ years ago)

it ran from a bunch of adsl/vdsl points on the ridge (the road to Piha) and then did point to point down the valleys.

I think it was run by someone who lived there and worked for Auckland uni. Not sure tho. We bid for a house down the bottom, and another on top of the ridge, so of course that was the first thing to investigate 😎

no idea if it’s still there, got replaced with fibre, got sold…

That rings a bell, that must be what the guy I used to kind-of know would use to connect up. Probably never going to see fibre in Karekare, maybe it's DSL now? But most likely another WISP.

Edit, the Broadband Map shows that the very top end (only) has DSL (in green), but for the rest it looks like it's mostly wireless (in blue) there:

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#3325229 28-Dec-2024 10:37

4G RSP makes more sense down there anyway

And FTR is is “the west coast”

Of Auckland.

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#3326640 31-Dec-2024 17:28

quickymart:

Jase2985:

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Still not "the West Coast" 😉 that's a definitive region. They are two quite different places. I think you mean west Auckland coast (or West Auckland coastline).

They didn't say "The" West Coast, though.

Its a beach town on the western coast of NZ. "In a West Coast beach town"

"the West Coast" or "a West Coast beach town" - they mean the same thing to me. As a local, I speak from experience.

Sorry I don't mean to nitpick but as someone from the actual West Coast (of the SI) I find it frustrating when people (not necessarily the OP) say "oh, I'm in a town on the Coast" or "West Coast" and it's actually nowhere near the proper Coast - encompassing Westport, Greymouth, Hokitika, etc.

If they were in Oakura (also a town on the "West Coast" - but in Taranaki) I would say something similar too.

Us Coasters are quite pedantic on this sort of thing, trust me...and I'm sure I'm not the only Coaster on here who would say the same thing.

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic divert.

OP - did you find out what the antennas were for in the end?

Looks from the other post that it's some sort of point to point antenna that has a host on the other side.

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