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#402645 10-Nov-2010 10:58

snap all the way just make sure your modem has an open NAT type took my xbox live multi player Que times from 3 mins to 1 :D.

they also dont charge you if you use over the cap just cap you with helps for high users like me becasue i spend the max amount we can afford on internet at the start of the month.

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#403153 10-Nov-2010 22:50

NzBeagle: + 1 for snap, switched from Telecom's AYCE plan to snap, and I can have two 360's playing MW2 while being host to 18 player game. Overseas hosted games have also improved. Central Auckland location.

Hey can you post a tracert to us.battle.net on Snap in Auckland?

On Windows:
Start menu > Run > cmd > tracert us.battle.net

Here's what it looks like on Telecom for example

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40] over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
  2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
  3 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 125-237-88-1.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [125.237.88.1]
  4 * * * Request timed out.
  5 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms ae4-10.akbr5.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.244.221]
  6 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms ae1-2.akbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.77]
  7 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms ae1-10.tkbr9.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.37]
  8 132 ms 132 ms 132 ms so6-1-1.labr5.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.127.62]
  9 133 ms 133 ms 133 ms so1-0-2.lebr6.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.14]
10 133 ms 133 ms 132 ms 12.86.75.29
11 134 ms 134 ms 133 ms cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.114]
12 132 ms 132 ms 132 ms gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.25]
13 133 ms 133 ms 133 ms 12.122.255.74
14 133 ms 133 ms 133 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242]
15 * * * Request timed out.

The last few hops don't respond to ICMP so just stop it after that.

Want to see if your traffic still goes AK > CHC > AK > rest... or if their AK handover is live.

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#403175 10-Nov-2010 23:47

Hmm.. Interesting... opened in browser fine.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>tracert us.battle.net

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>

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#403177 10-Nov-2010 23:50

Related to the ISky..
http://www.isky.co.nz/
{quote} Our broadband partners are Vodafone, Orcon, Slingshot, Farmside, Xnet, Woosh and Snap. You can contact them directly for specific information about their plans. {/quote}

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#403178 10-Nov-2010 23:57

Hey can you post a tracert to us.battle.net on Snap in Auckland?

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#403192 11-Nov-2010 01:32

SCM: Hmm.. Interesting... opened in browser fine.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>tracert us.battle.net

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>

Your router/modem or windows firewall might be set to drop ICMP.

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#403222 11-Nov-2010 08:19

Ragnor:
SCM: Hmm.. Interesting... opened in browser fine.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>tracert us.battle.net

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>

Your router/modem or windows firewall might be set to drop ICMP.

heh true, forgot about that.
That will be the IPCop firewall

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#404679 15-Nov-2010 00:46

SCM:
Ragnor:
SCM: Hmm.. Interesting... opened in browser fine.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>tracert us.battle.net

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>

Your router/modem or windows firewall might be set to drop ICMP.

heh true, forgot about that.
That will be the IPCop firewall

Wrong..

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>ping google.com

Pinging google.com [66.102.7.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=51
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=51
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=51
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.99:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 163ms, Maximum = 165ms, Average = 164ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>ping us.battle.net

Pinging us.battle.net [12.129.242.40] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 12.129.242.40:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>ping 12.129.242.40

Pinging 12.129.242.40 with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 12.129.242.40:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

Would seem to me that us.battle.net dont respond to IMCP rather than my setup, I can ping everywhere apart from battle.net lol -.-

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#404681 15-Nov-2010 01:00

Yes it doesn't but we were looking at tracert not ping ;)

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#404684 15-Nov-2010 01:32

heh true, my bad. that will teach me for reading with beer goggles -.-

However just did the tracert with the same result..

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>tracert us.battle.net

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>tracert google.co.nz

Tracing route to google.co.nz [66.102.7.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.3.1
2 26 ms 99 ms 99 ms 192.168.1.253
3 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 68.16.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz [111.69.16.68]

4 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 60.16.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz [111.69.16.60]

5 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 111-69-3-195.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.3.195]
6 39 ms 38 ms 39 ms 111-69-27.66.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.66]
7 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 111-69-27.65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]
8 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms 203.167.233.10
9 165 ms 165 ms 165 ms i-13-0-1.wil-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.142.106
]
10 164 ms 174 ms 164 ms i-1-1.tlot03.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.234]
11 164 ms 164 ms 164 ms 72.14.197.53
12 165 ms 164 ms 165 ms 216.239.43.12
13 174 ms 165 ms 175 ms 72.14.239.246
14 164 ms 164 ms 164 ms lax04s01-in-f104.1e100.net [66.102.7.104]

Trace complete.

weird ehh

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#404719 15-Nov-2010 09:11

Whats your local routing table show if you do a route print, because it looks like you have something strange for that IP for it to not even try to leave the PC

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#404732 15-Nov-2010 09:44

This what you want?

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1    <1 ms     1 ms     1 ms [10.0.0.1]
2    58 ms    56 ms    46 ms 68.16.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz [111.69.16.68]
3    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms 60.16.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz [111.69.16.60]
4    41 ms    41 ms    42 ms 111-69-3-195.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.3.195]
5    58 ms    58 ms    58 ms 111-69-27.66.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.66]
6    58 ms    59 ms    64 ms 111-69-27.65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]
7    58 ms    59 ms    59 ms 203.167.233.10
8   185 ms   185 ms   185 ms i-0-1-4-0.tlot-core01.bx.reach.com [202.84.142.1
18]
9   186 ms   184 ms   184 ms i-1-1.tlot03.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.234]
10   187 ms   186 ms   186 ms 208.175.201.5
11   188 ms   186 ms   186 ms cr2-tengig-0-7-3-0.losangeles.savvis.net [204.70
.193.49]
12   211 ms   199 ms   184 ms er2-tengig-3-1.lay.savvis.net [204.70.198.10]
13   186 ms   185 ms   185 ms 208.174.194.66
14   187 ms   188 ms   188 ms 12.123.132.129
15   187 ms   190 ms   202 ms cr83.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.109]
16   186 ms   187 ms   187 ms gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.25]
17   186 ms   188 ms   186 ms 12.122.255.74
18   187 ms   188 ms   187 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.12
9.193.242]
19     *        *        *     Request timed out.

20     *     ^C

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#404872 15-Nov-2010 14:15

richms: Whats your local routing table show if you do a route print, because it looks like you have something strange for that IP for it to not even try to leave the PC

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>route print
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 02 b3 4c 3c 48 ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 S Desktop Adapter - Packet Sche
duler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface Metric
          0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0      192.168.3.1   192.168.3.101       20
     86.51.81.243 255.255.255.255      192.168.3.1   192.168.3.101       20
117.198.181.249 255.255.255.255      192.168.3.1   192.168.3.101       20
        127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0        127.0.0.1       127.0.0.1       1
      192.168.3.0    255.255.255.0    192.168.3.101   192.168.3.101       20
    192.168.3.101 255.255.255.255        127.0.0.1       127.0.0.1       20
    192.168.3.255 255.255.255.255    192.168.3.101   192.168.3.101       20
        224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0    192.168.3.101   192.168.3.101       20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255    192.168.3.101   192.168.3.101       1
Default Gateway:       192.168.3.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None

yep, seems some weirdness going on in this PC, might be time for a full virus/malware scan.

SCM

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#404876 15-Nov-2010 14:19

That problem sure is related to that PC, this tracert is from 2nd PC

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>tracert us.battle.net

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ipcop.rebelnet-nz.com [192.168.2.1]
2 49 ms 100 ms 99 ms 192.168.1.253
3 22 ms 22 ms 23 ms 68.16.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz [111.69.16.68]

4 23 ms 22 ms 27 ms 60.16.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz [111.69.16.60]

5 22 ms 22 ms 27 ms 111-69-3-195.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.3.195]
6 40 ms 38 ms 38 ms 111-69-27.66.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.66]
7 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms 111-69-27.65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]
8 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms 203.167.233.10
9 165 ms 165 ms 165 ms i-13-1-0.wil-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.142.110
]
10 166 ms 165 ms 164 ms i-2-5.tlot03.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.242]
11 177 ms 194 ms 165 ms 208.175.201.5
12 166 ms 166 ms 167 ms cr2-tengig-0-7-3-0.losangeles.savvis.net [204.70
.193.49]
13 165 ms 165 ms 165 ms er2-tengig-3-1.lay.savvis.net [204.70.198.10]
14 202 ms 167 ms 166 ms 208.174.194.66
15 168 ms 167 ms 169 ms 12.123.132.129
16 167 ms 168 ms 167 ms cr84.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.249]
17 167 ms 166 ms 166 ms gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.25]
18 168 ms 167 ms 168 ms 12.122.255.74
19 185 ms 179 ms 167 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.12
9.193.242]
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Will try a test from the lappy which is in the same subnet as the first PC. Could be an IPCop issue prehaps, trivial though.

Ragnor

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#404956 15-Nov-2010 16:52

gjm: This what you want?

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [10.0.0.1]
2 58 ms 56 ms 46 ms 68.16.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz [111.69.16.68]

Yeah see that first "external" hop is 40ms higher than my first hop on Telecom ADSL in Auckland, chiefly because Snap's handover from Telecom wholesale is in Christchurch.. so for Auckland Snap users traffic to say Blizzard US servers goes AK > CHCH > AK > US.

Apparently Snap have been developing handover in more locations around the country, just not active yet.

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