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#1256646 11-Mar-2015 21:39

Perhaps the telcos could slip in their terms that by requesting any service, you are providing concent for any and all services to be installed into the property? Wont concent to neighbour getting fiber? Goodbye phone line.

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#1256650 11-Mar-2015 21:47

Lorenceo: Consent is assumed to already be granted from him, since he has already requested UFB at an address which shares the same driveway.

why is it not reciprocated

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#1256659 11-Mar-2015 22:04

it will be, its the 2nd neighbor that will be the issue

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#1256677 11-Mar-2015 22:32

so he knows now which neighbour's consent he still needs

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#1256688 11-Mar-2015 22:55

And if its the absantee landlord that is the problem, find out who the property manager is and have a chat to them about it. They usually want to keep neighbours onside.

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#1256737 12-Mar-2015 01:07

The silly part about all of this. Is that a Plumber is allowed to replace a rusty narrow steel watermain with a bigger diameter plastic or copper one to improve water pressure and flow. An Electrician is allowed to replace a single phase rubber insulated mains cable with a 3 phase PVC insulated one. The gas network company is allowed to replace an old steel (most likely rusty) low pressure gas pipe with a high pressure plastic one. To allow more / bigger gas appliances to be installed while improving safety at the same time. And Chorus is allowed to replace a single pair copper phone line. That is not gel filled. With a multi pair gel filled cable to allow more phone lines for a home office ect to service a house.

Since all of these upgrades are allowed to occur. And have been occurring all over the country for decades. Even though they are almost never done with comparable materials and installation methods. So no reason why another service upgrade, But in the form of fibre instead of copper cannot occur.

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#1256760 12-Mar-2015 07:32

Jase2985: it will be, its the 2nd neighbor that will be the issue

just ask all the tenants to install UFB then noone's consent will be sought. would that be correct

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#1256761 12-Mar-2015 07:34

joker97:
Jase2985: it will be, its the 2nd neighbor that will be the issue

just ask all the tenants to install UFB then noone's consent will be sought. would that be correct

one is thinking of getting it the other doesnt care

the one thinking of getting it doesnt require his consent as he is already trying to get UFB for himself

he is unsure if chorus has any of the consent forums at the moment, and the other neighbor hasn't appied to get UFB for them selves yet

so not a lot he can do unless chours change the way they want to do it

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#1256764 12-Mar-2015 07:39

in unit blocks of 20 units on a cross lease i wonder how hard it is to get UFB ...

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#1256771 12-Mar-2015 07:47

So replace the old copper with a new copper, that just happens to have some fibre strands bundled in :)

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#1256772 12-Mar-2015 07:47

joker97: in unit blocks of 20 units on a cross lease i wonder how hard it is to get UFB ...

probably extremely

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#1256774 12-Mar-2015 08:00

joker97: in unit blocks of 20 units on a cross lease i wonder how hard it is to get UFB ...

The harsh reality of the world we live in is that there are almost certainly going to be people who have complex installs (both SDU and MDU) where both access and more importantly price in the case of MDUs play a major factor. There are MDUs still being built only with copper - I've been working recently in a brand new just completed apartment building in Wellington that despite being in a UFB area is fully cabled with cat3 25pr cable and BT jacks in rooms. Running fibre in such buildings isn't possible without significant expense, and it's likely we'll see many buildings where body corps simply aren't willing to front up with cash to sort these sorts of issues.

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#1256785 12-Mar-2015 08:35

sbiddle: I've been working recently in a brand new just completed apartment building in Wellington that despite being in a UFB area is fully cabled with cat3 25pr cable and BT jacks in rooms. Running fibre in such buildings isn't possible without significant expense, and it's likely we'll see many buildings where body corps simply aren't willing to front up with cash to sort these sorts of issues.

Chorus should refuse to install new copper where UFB is; that would make developers rethink things once they realise no one in their new building can get phone and internet.

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#1256802 12-Mar-2015 08:51

Lias: As Charles Dickens once wrote "The law is an ass."

I would have to disagree. The law is there for a reason. I would not want anyone to dig up my land or run services through it without my consent. If there are services there I cannot use that land myself (i.e. if I want to dig it up for some reason).

Owning a Cross Lease property means you agree to share land with your neighbours. They have rights as do you. It's what you agree to when you choose to buy Cross Lease properties. If you don't want to share, don't buy it!

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#1256849 12-Mar-2015 09:41

Isn't it the OP's point that there is an existing service duct that removes the need to dig? Unless this duct had limited capacity for new services a neighbour refusing permission just to protect their interests would just end up getting the same response.

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