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#3130593 22-Sep-2023 17:41

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And maybe that is ok… so i can provide my wired connections thru a 2.5gb switch

And then look to hardwire maybe 2x access points in either end of the house?

But im asking well, what particular APs and switch would i use?

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#3130594 22-Sep-2023 17:41

Adam88: Iphone 15 does.. im grabbing that soon

As an iPhone 15 Pro Max owner along with owning thousands of dollars of networking gear myself including WiFi 6E access points ask when you've ever needed multi-gigabit speeds to your phone?

I tested this today with my access points and created a WiFi 6E network. Great, it works, it is pretty quick but honestly couldn't notice a difference from 6E to my existing 6 wireless network.

It is a minor upgrade from the 14 to the 15 really but if you're only doing this for WiFi 6E then perhaps step back and ask yourself what you're really hoping to achieve here? A speedtest to show you can perhaps do over a gigabit?

There is some good advise on this page: https://www.duckware.com/tech/wifi-in-the-us.html

Hyperfibre is a niche and it honestly seems like you really don't need it. Sure it is OK to want things but how much money do you want to sink into this and what are you really hoping to achieve? Your use-case seems really light to me to the point it even sounds like you'll hardly fully take advantage of Gigabit yet alone Hyperfibre.

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#3130595 22-Sep-2023 17:46

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I think your missing the point.. i even said in my Original Post that i probably dont need that but ignoring that.. i would like it and set up well

I just want advice on how to do that with a budget of $2K say to ensure i can have up to 1GB wifi speeds around all areas of the house…and how to push upwards of 1-2gb speeds thru ethernet

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#3130596 22-Sep-2023 17:47

Adam88: @jiriteach
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And maybe that is ok… so i can provide my wired connections thru a 2.5gb switch

And then look to hardwire maybe 2x access points in either end of the house?

But im asking well, what particular APs and switch would i use?

You could buy a 2.5gbe switch yes and provide wired connections through that to Wifi 6E ap's that have 2.6gbe ports on them.
That will give you a wired 2.5gbe network but you still wont get the speeds you are after over wifi.

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#3130597 22-Sep-2023 17:49

But that will give me still around 1gb speeds for wifi correct?
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#3130599 22-Sep-2023 17:53

Adam88: But that will give me still around 1gb speeds for wifi correct?
@jiriteach

Not an easy question to answer as its highly dependant on so many factors.

ie. The devices (laptops etc.) having Wifi 6E cards or support, network congestion in your area (how many wifi networks are competing for space), other noise, how far you are away from the access points, the access points being setup correctly to work with the right channels and frequency to support the higher throughput.

Its possible in a lab environment but cannot see how this is practical for day to day use.

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#3130600 22-Sep-2023 17:56

The 2.5 gig switch is unnecessary if your goal is multiple mesh units of 1 gig max wifi. Plugging your satellites into the 1G ports on the orbi would be sufficient. Do you think you need 2 or three wifi access points to cover your house? (Probably depends where your main node is)

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#3130781 22-Sep-2023 23:16

nztim:

as @Linux said Hyperfibre is a complete waste of time, unless you are willing to spend circa 10K upgrading your entire network.

$10K is a bit harsh. I have just spent $1400 getting 40 Gbit/s Infiniband going between my three main PCs - 40 Gbit/s Inifinband gear is obsolete in the business environment and so is available pretty cheap second hand and surplus new.

However, if I were to switch to Hyperfibre I would still need a good 10 Gbit/s Ethernet router as Internet routers do not do Infiniband.

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#3131644 25-Sep-2023 12:34

Don't waste time on WiFi 6/6e.
Its going to be replaced quite quickly with Wifi 7.
WiFi 7 should give you what you want.

You need to wait till you see WiFi7 APs start to appear,

Then throw all your apple devices under a bus, and buy ones which support 8x8 WiFi 7.

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#3131651 25-Sep-2023 12:53

Adam88:

hey mate,

that sounds great, are you with 2 degrees? does that router work with 2degrees?

All good if i PM you? just to get some further info/help?

Yeah I am with 2Degrees. The router works out of the box, no configuration needed.

Plug RED 10GbE WAN port into ONT, plug YELLOW 10GbE LAN port into QNAP 10GbE port and turn on.

2.5GbE to all ethernet connected devices, and Wi-Fi 6E.

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#3131905 26-Sep-2023 07:07

Adam88:
@Linux,

Like no company so far can give me any recommendations... regardless of costs... Do you know a company which specializes in fast setups?

I've been passed these guys names as a recommendation of a company that could help you

https://thewifiexperts.co.nz/

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#3137519 1-Oct-2023 22:41

The Ubiquiti UDM-Pro can support hyperfibre and the U6 Enterprise is wifi 6E with a 2.5g lan port. Theoretically that it about as good as you are going to be able to get before wifi 7 becomes mainstream. The reviews for the U6 Enterprise show that it can deliver multi-gigabit speeds over wifi.

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#3173541 20-Dec-2023 06:36

AQuietPlace:

Adam88:

hey mate,

that sounds great, are you with 2 degrees? does that router work with 2degrees?

All good if i PM you? just to get some further info/help?

Yeah I am with 2Degrees. The router works out of the box, no configuration needed.

Plug RED 10GbE WAN port into ONT, plug YELLOW 10GbE LAN port into QNAP 10GbE port and turn on.

2.5GbE to all ethernet connected devices, and Wi-Fi 6E.

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#3173542 20-Dec-2023 06:50

@Aquietplace

I recently had 4G/4G Hyper Fibre installed in my new place. Went with 2 degrees because it wasn't much more than I was paying with Spark at my previous address. The Orbi they gave me only had 4 1G ports out. I noticed that there are Orbi routers with that one 2.5G out but that's not the one they gave me. I purchased the exact QNAP switch you mentioned for my network. Ran cat 6 cabling upstairs where my gaming PC and PS5 is, and where my switch was going to be, thinking I will then have multiple 2.5G wired connections to my devices. I was going to return my switch today but might hang onto it and get hold of 2Degrees. Did your Orbi come with the Hyper Fibre connection or did you purchase it? I am in Auckland.

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#3173544 20-Dec-2023 06:59

Wow this is hilarious, the hyperfibre router from 2degrees, it it only has gigabit ports on it (with a 2.5G to connect to the ONT)?

yet they that: "To ensure you get the best possible speeds from your new Hyperfibre connection, you will need to use our dedicated Hyperfibre modem which is included in your plan."

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