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#3269773 9-Aug-2024 11:02

I used to be on the gigabit plan before the 300/100 plan was a thing.

That was purely to have a better upload speed as I host some remote access things from home. The old 100/20 plans were a bit too much of a bottleneck.

Having a faster connection is like owning a really powerful car. Do you use that power all of the time? No. But it's great to have it on standby for the times when you want to pull out & pass quickly.

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#3269845 9-Aug-2024 12:18

WFH and is do a bunch of prototyping with technologies like OpenShift. I regularly max out my Gig connection running builds. Also need to upload debug dumps so the upload speed makes a huge difference.

Generally known online as OpenMedia, now working for Red Hat APAC as a Technology Evangelist and Portfolio Architect. Still playing with MythTV and digital media on the side.

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#3269846 9-Aug-2024 12:22

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Amusing how things have changed.... back in the BBS days it was "wow you have 56k ?" :D (which was bit of a gimmick anyway as most only supported 33.6k upload unless used with similar chipset modems and even then you'd be stretched to hit 40k on NZ lines)

Upload was never over 33.6K even if by some miracle you managed to get over 50K on download (even on the test bed 56k was almost never achieved). The big thing that "56k" did for those of us on the ISP network side was change from physical modems and analogue lines to fully digital access routers with digital E1 ISDN primary rate lines (30x 64k channels). This meant that ISDN digital calls shared the same channels as analogue dial up. The move to digital made service significantly more reliable and predictable compared to hundreds or thousands of physical copper lines.

https://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/as5300/hardware/quick/guide/5300bklt.html

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#3269863 9-Aug-2024 13:10

noroad:

xpd:

Amusing how things have changed.... back in the BBS days it was "wow you have 56k ?" :D (which was bit of a gimmick anyway as most only supported 33.6k upload unless used with similar chipset modems and even then you'd be stretched to hit 40k on NZ lines)

Upload was never over 33.6K even if by some miracle you managed to get over 50K on download (even on the test bed 56k was almost never achieved). The big thing that "56k" did for those of us on the ISP network side was change from physical modems and analogue lines to fully digital access routers with digital E1 ISDN primary rate lines (30x 64k channels). This meant that ISDN digital calls shared the same channels as analogue dial up. The move to digital made service significantly more reliable and predictable compared to hundreds or thousands of physical copper lines.

https://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/as5300/hardware/quick/guide/5300bklt.html

http://www.used-cad-workstations.de/ProductLinks/ascend_max4000.shtml

The thing i find awesome is the dialup concentrator at the ISP end could generate the audio digitally. There was no need to break that E1 out into individual lines, a card could simply emulate a bunch of lines and generate the audio for all the individual lines completely in software and each individual line / digital audio stream only got converted back to analog at the local exchange.

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#3269883 9-Aug-2024 13:46

The thing i find awesome is the dialup concentrator at the ISP end could generate the audio digitally. There was no need to break that E1 out into individual lines, a card could simply emulate a bunch of lines and generate the audio for all the individual lines completely in software and each individual line / digital audio stream only got converted back to analog at the local exchange.

Yes, there were actually digital modem daughter cards on the ISDN Primary rate cards. It did take several generations of firmware for the digital modems to actually start performing anything like 56k. This caused lots of upset customers when they expected connections to be "fast" beacuse they bought a cheap "winmodem" that said it could do 56k.

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#3269885 9-Aug-2024 13:50

Since this is turning into a bit of a nostalgia thread... tried the 30-day free trial of The Microsoft Network that came with Windows 95. This was over a 4800 bps modem and I remember the icons loading very slowly :)

We picked up a Voyager connection pack in late 1995, and it didn't "like" the modem, so we upgraded to a Dynalink 14.4. Switched from Wave (which was ultimately bought by what is now One) pretty promptly and then upgraded to a Dynalink 33.6 at some point.

We never "explicitly" bought a 56k modem, but eventually a Winmodem came bundled with something. Then went to ADSL with yet another Dynalink, an RTA020 in 2001.

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#3269901 9-Aug-2024 14:14

Jetstream 128kb/s ADSL "broadband" has entered the chat.

Fun fact, I was on the team at Telecom that was fighting off the local loop unbundling efforts.

I remember composing a bunch of slides with reasons why we shouldn't be unbundled and how we can't be compared against our countries with our geography and population.

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#3269902 9-Aug-2024 14:19

turtleattacks:

Jetstream 128kb/s ADSL "broadband" has entered the chat.

Fun fact, I was on the team at Telecom that was fighting off the local loop unbundling efforts.

I remember composing a bunch of slides with reasons why we shouldn't be unbundled and how we can be compared against our countries with our geography and population.

yes, As a wholesale customer of Telecom from those days the anticompetitive behaviour of Telecom was horriffic. If the forced Spark/Chorus split had not happened we would be worse off than our cousins across the ditch instead of having a world leading fibre network. Australia's NBN is such a horrific mess beacuse Telstra was allowed to retain the bulk of that power for so long and it lingers today.

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#3269904 9-Aug-2024 14:23

noroad:

turtleattacks:

Jetstream 128kb/s ADSL "broadband" has entered the chat.

Fun fact, I was on the team at Telecom that was fighting off the local loop unbundling efforts.

I remember composing a bunch of slides with reasons why we shouldn't be unbundled and how we can be compared against our countries with our geography and population.

yes, As a wholesale customer of Telecom from those days the anticompetitive behaviour of Telecom was horriffic. If the forced Spark/Chorus split had not happened we would be worse off than our cousins across the ditch instead of having a world leading fibre network. Australia's NBN is such a horrific mess beacuse Telstra was allowed to retain the bulk of that power for so long and it lingers today.

It was also during a period where our CEO Theresa Gutting was caught saying confusion is one form of marketing for us.

It was also a time of W-CDMA and Sanyo flip phones.

I also vaguely remember being amused at the number of mis-steps by Eco-net Wireless which ultimately became 2degrees. We thought it would never got off the ground.

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#3269905 9-Aug-2024 14:25

Wasn't W-CDMA the Paul Reynolds era?

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#3269906 9-Aug-2024 14:25

turtleattacks:

I also vaguely remember being amused at the number of mis-steps by Eco-net Wireless which ultimately became 2degrees. We thought it would never got off the ground.

That was certainly a trainwreck for a long time.

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#3269908 9-Aug-2024 14:26

Behodar:

Wasn't W-CDMA the Paul Reynolds era?

Is W-CDMA when they got Hammond and the 'new' 027 numbers? Or have I got the wording wrong.

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#3269913 9-Aug-2024 14:29

turtleattacks:

Jetstream 128kb/s ADSL "broadband" has entered the chat.

As a 16 year old in 2002 who enjoyed online gaming this was incredible when I finally convinced my (somewhat Luddite) parents to upgrade.

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#3269914 9-Aug-2024 14:33

It was a "no brainer" for us because we had a second line for dial-up. We were able to cancel that and use the savings for ADSL.

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#3269915 9-Aug-2024 14:45

turtleattacks:

Jetstream 128kb/s ADSL "broadband" has entered the chat.

Here is the crazyness of the anti-competitive behaviour from Telecom in those days. "Jetstream" from Telecom was the only adsl option available due to the lack of forced unbundling of the asset that the entire country paid for. Jetstream had a data accounting charge to the end user. As a wholesale ISP you could buy the ADSL tail that was then handed over to you in Auckland/Wellington/Christurch on a 155Mb/s ATM OC3 (this cost you $4000 month). Then as an ISP you would supply the Internet transit capacity to your customers. But here is the thing, Telecom (remove swear words here) would not just charge the ISP for the local tail, oh no, Telecom would also charge the wholesale ISP for the data transfered! So no wholesale ISP could ever do anything apart from lose money as they were paying Telecom for transit capacity that Telecom was not even providing! Absolutely criminal anti-competitive behaviour, so I would not talk too loudly about being on the team preventing unbundling at that time.

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