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RunningMan

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#3325093 27-Dec-2024 18:16

MichaelNZ:[snip] So again, the cost is largely irrelevant.

I get where you're coming from, but respectfully, this couldn't be further from the truth. Cost is everything. If it was irrelevant, then everyone would already have access to fibre.

There's always a cost vs reward balance. This is public money being spent so there's a huge number of factors to consider when drawing the line as to where it is spent. Does this always happen wisely and appropriately - absolutely not, but that's a question for the Politics forum...

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#3325094 27-Dec-2024 18:30

MichaelNZ:

Anyway, its largely irrelevant now as Norsewood now has an RCG cellsite which was put up a couple of weeks ago. Which Ormondville may benefit from 6km away. I am not aware of any movement for them to get a cellsite.

Its great you have this available to you now. It means a lot more people in your area can get connected

MichaelNZ:

Talkiet:

To the people in this thread - what's your personal $ value for the most subsidised per connection you'd be happy with? $5k, $20k, $100k?

Its my understanding the connections in the city were subsidised around $1,500 but this could be out of date.

I would think areas like ours a bit more - probably around $2,500.

But it may shock you the number is not that important. A small group of locals campaigned and got Norsewood an RCG cellsite costing I believe around $250k.

When it first started it was less than $1000 per connection, last I heard a few years back it had gone up to $1200-1400 per connection, likely more these days. But remember this is the cost from the prebuilt infrastructure in the street to the persons ONT. This doesn't include the distribution in the street back to the optical splitters and from there back to the exchange, nor the cost in the exchange for all the hardware.

I recall seeing something for the cost of the hardware for an exchange being something like $75-125k, then add in the cost of running the fibre to people's gates. It's going to be a lot more for somewhere like Norsewood as while downtown is dense its becomes very spread out pretty quickly so trenching infrastructure in for hundreds of meters when only a handful connect to it, look to any big town and that same infrastructure could have 50-100 connections from it. There appears to be about 80 properties within 1km of the exchange/cabinet in Norsewood town.

$250K sounds like a bargain, and it will allow a lot more people further from town to connect to it, even people in surrounding towns, though I'm, not sure how line of site they are to Norsewood.

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#3325095 27-Dec-2024 18:39

Jase2985:

I recall seeing something for the cost of the hardware for an exchange being something like $75-125k

Its from 4-figures to lowish 5-figures for an OLT. So I am calling it that number is made up or somehow a lot more money is being spent then the small players who setup local GPON networks.

Or they are talking about the total cost of multiple OLT's for high population/density areas.

A township like this with around 100 properties at near urban density should come under $200k or someone is creaming it.

The density of Norsewood within the likely UFB footprint is 1 real address per 32 metres of cable run in the street. Adjusting for what already been done with the cell site it drops to 1 per 28m.

This may sound a lot to someone living in a row of shoe boxes but its not unusual even for Auckland. And given its a rural township most of this can be trenched, not bored like in concrete jungles.

The Chorus estimate to our address was $15k for a 230m run and most of this would probably be bored because where we are happens to intersect well with the footpaths. So for it to cost more then $181k seems unlikely. But at a guess I would put the real figure to cable the street at no more then $100k allowing for economies of scale and most of the distance being trenched.

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#3325147 27-Dec-2024 20:06

MichaelNZ:

Jase2985:

I recall seeing something for the cost of the hardware for an exchange being something like $75-125k

Its from 4-figures to lowish 5-figures for an OLT. So I am calling it that number is made up or somehow a lot more money is being spent then the small players who setup local GPON networks.

nope, it was for a community funded setup about 5 years or so ago. Don't forget it's not just an OLT, its any other switching equipment and power/backup requirements for it, along with rack space. Might be cheaper these days as the equipment has become more common.

MichaelNZ:

But at a guess I would put the real figure to cable the street at no more then $100k allowing for economies of scale and most of the distance being trenched.

I would suggest you have grossly underestimated that cost, or you have severely sold your community short on who is getting it based on other NGA quotes we have seen on here.

Either way you have your RBI tower which at the $250K cost is a steal compared to what it would take to cover just the "urban" population, but it also covers the rural population so win-win for the community.

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#3325156 27-Dec-2024 20:44

MichaelNZ:

For some reason Chorus has a lot of invalid information.

Can you please clarify what you are basing this assessment on?

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