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#2992694 6-Nov-2022 22:50

nztim:
Sounds like rubbish to me, back it the day lots of people had phone lines just to have a broadband connection and never actually had a phone plugged in, electrical signals from the NEAX wouldn't even be sent down the line unless the there was ringing, or the phone went off hook.

Not rubbish but wire connection methods have become more reliable. Insulation displacing connectors aren't as prone to oxidation as twisted joints. Previously a "wetting current" helped break down corrosion.

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#2992695 6-Nov-2022 23:15

And the current will only flow when there is a phone off the hook on the line. On hook or no phone, and no current flows so the wetting current excuse doesnt work. About all the voltage is good for is making it corrode faster when the sieve like network got water in it so you got an actual actionable fault instead of just crappy dsl performance which they would do nothing about till it had dried out and then charge you a no fault found fee.

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#2993106 7-Nov-2022 15:41

Technofreak:

So tell me how did they bill for fire alarm circuits and similar which had no number associated with the cable pair

Fire Alarm circuits were MDF pairs to equipment other than the NEAX?

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#2993107 7-Nov-2022 15:43

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I think the answer is that they'd rather not invest the potential millions to migrate copper to their newer software stacks...

Best to just switch it off as soon as possible rather than waste money on changing things and testing them all for it to be for nothing after a few years.

Fibre will never reach Makara, Te Horo, Wainuiomata South etc unless someone opens big wallets

FWA is capped in some of those areas and Starlink even now has a soft cap of 1TB which is only a few streams at 4K

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#2993197 7-Nov-2022 17:14

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Fibre will never reach Makara, Te Horo, Wainuiomata South etc unless someone opens big wallets

Te Horo is scheduled for UFB 2+ last I checked

*edit* Never mind, it's on the "North Island" jpg map but if you check the address checker it's only Te Horo Beach, not Te Horo itself.

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#2993200 7-Nov-2022 17:19

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Starlink even now has a soft cap of 1TB which is only a few streams at 4K

*In the US and Canada

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#2993252 7-Nov-2022 18:40

Lias:

nztim:

Fibre will never reach Makara, Te Horo, Wainuiomata South etc unless someone opens big wallets

Te Horo is scheduled for UFB 2+ last I checked

*edit* Never mind, it's on the "North Island" jpg map but if you check the address checker it's only Te Horo Beach, not Te Horo itself.

Yeah same with (some parts of) Peka Peak beach, I just don't get that, why run fibre to the beach and not provide it in the township?

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#2993254 7-Nov-2022 18:44

St1ick:

nztim:

Starlink even now has a soft cap of 1TB which is only a few streams at 4K

*In the US and Canada

For now - think the soft caps will come to other parts too

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#2993304 7-Nov-2022 23:06

nztim:

Technofreak:

So tell me how did they bill for fire alarm circuits and similar which had no number associated with the cable pair

Fire Alarm circuits were MDF pairs to equipment other than the NEAX?

Yep, most definitely. Came in on a pair from the fire panel in a building then jumpered on the MDF to a pair off to the Fire Station monitoring system.

There were also Telex and data circuits among other things which went no where near the switching equipment (NEAX).

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