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#1517549 22-Mar-2016 13:03

DarthKermit:

I wonder what it will be like circa 2019 - 2020 when the UFB rollout is basically complete, but there are people who can't get UFB because of others on shared driveways or they live in MDUs.

If something isn't sorted, some customers may end up with no DSL once the copper network is decommissioned and no UFB either!

Living in a "cable" suburb that won't get fibre until late 2019, I find this is a very good question.

Hopefully new land access regulations (discussed elsewhere on Geekzone) will have come into force well before then.

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#1517832 22-Mar-2016 17:32

Hopefully by then they get to just swap any copper install for fiber since they are both just internet cables. And probably cable for fiber too, since access for internet shouldnt matter who provides it.

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#1518056 23-Mar-2016 00:10

PhantomNVD: Lol, amortise over ten years when everyone here is talking about copper being DEactivated in the next 5. Why pay for them to extend the copper network

Thats the point. Is RBI really more expensive than copper if you take into account the installation cost of the copper. Why not just go with RBI?

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#1551683 12-May-2016 19:21

So, an update in my situation/area!

Came home today to this:

Chorus just thrust a cable through under the roar on the corner I have my copper boundary connection installed to... It travels about 50m down my boundary and then 90 degree bend to cross the main road just before a T junction heading toward Pokeno.

As it starts right at a grey copper tube (and ends in one too) I suspect they shoving more copper down there tomorrow and connecting (or reconnecting) a neighbour over the road.

Question is, how do I now get them to connect me as a standard connection since the wire now passes my boundary... Just open another ISP connection request? Surely they can't now ping me a $2600 'connection fee' if they already pass my boundary?

(Anyone have an inside track to chorus works please PM me and I'll give my exact address)

All I can say is I'll be absolutely stoked if I can now get unlimited VDSL, and would have been SOOOI pissed off if I'd just paid that $2600 and then they used it to extend the way they just did! 😝

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#1551723 12-May-2016 19:46

raytaylor:

It *really* annoys me when people think dsl should be cheaper than anything else because its slower.

Just because its slower doesnt mean it costs less to provide.

The flip side of that could be why does 200/200 UFB cost more than 30/10? Does the former cost more to provide?

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#1551747 12-May-2016 20:17

DarthKermit:

raytaylor:

It *really* annoys me when people think dsl should be cheaper than anything else because its slower.

Just because its slower doesnt mean it costs less to provide.

The flip side of that could be why does 200/200 UFB cost more than 30/10? Does the former cost more to provide?

Yes it does - ultimately GPON is a shared resource, so price elasticity needs to occur at the wholesale layer 2 level, and then at the ISP layer 3 level the increased dimensioning of bandwidth costs money as well.

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