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Topic # 10131 6-Nov-2006 15:01
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No more free national - with 8Mbit this could potentially be pretty expensive for ISP's to provide. HOWEVER - local traffic (ie within Xnet) is still free. Local does _NOT_ include Xnet customer to Xnet customer, so before you go thinking about that Xnet only DC++ hub, don't. Local does = mail, news, recoil, VFX, plus some new stuff in the works.

New plans are as follows -

Base Cost:

256/128 = $26.95
FS/128 = $38.95
FS/FS = $54.95

Pricing is with or without tolls - i.e. you don't get hit up for $10 if you don't want WxC tolls.

Data Charges:

0.015c/MB, yes thats 0.15 of a cent ($1.54 per GB) - Edit: Fixed, big oops on my part. Edit again, I still suck at maths.

How this stacks up:

10GB = $15.36 + Base
20GB = $30.72 + Base
30GB = $46.08 + Base
40GB = $61.44 + Base


Plus you can set your own spending limits right down to the last MB, and after that switch to 64kbit - or you can choose to have no limits and spend as much as suits you.

If you do set a limit and don't use all the data, you only get charged for what you use.

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  Reply # 51256 6-Nov-2006 15:47
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I have been on a 2Meg/128k plan with XNET for the last year or so.  Our kids sometimes use the entire 10GB allocation and get throttled back to 64k for the last few days of the month.  Too bad, be a little more careful next month I say...

But here's the thing:  At present this plan costs $42.95 per month with free national data.

Under these new plans it is going to cost $54.31 i.e. almost a $12 increase.

Not really what I was expecting...



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  Reply # 51282 6-Nov-2006 16:44
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I dont think these plans are good at all.

It's Telecosm fault, even with the icnreased speed, people hardly notice a difference during peak times anyway

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  Reply # 51283 6-Nov-2006 16:57
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simon14: I dont think these plans are good at all ... even with the icnreased speed, people hardly notice a difference during peak times anyway

Yes, I agree with you on both counts.  I've just phoned WorldxChange and XNET customers can remain on the existing plans if they want to.  They are not forcing anybody to change.

Maybe those new plans will suit somebody out there, but they don't suit me.  It's all about having more choices I guess, and on that score I can't argue.

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  Reply # 51284 6-Nov-2006 17:08
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simon14: I dont think these plans are good at all.

It's Telecosm fault, even with the icnreased speed, people hardly notice a difference during peak times anyway

Hmmm Xnet release new plans with quite a different structure to some aspects, than other ISPs, and you dont think they are good, and thats Telecoms fault?

In what way?




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  Reply # 51342 6-Nov-2006 21:29
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I don't think it's good to take away a service that was the reaosn for many of their customers signing up to them for (free national traffic)

It's Telecoms fault because Telecom charge ISP's too much to resell DSL and the quality of DSL is rubbish. At the moment its about 9 30pm and I cant play any online games due to a congested exchange.

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simon14: I don't think it's good to take away a service that was the reaosn for many of their customers signing up to them for (free national traffic)

Simon:  That's not correct.  If you stay on one of the existing plans, you still get your National Traffic for free.  It's only on the new plans that different rules apply.

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  Reply # 51382 7-Nov-2006 00:58
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Where does it say that the new plans dont have free national? All I can see mentioning national traffic is the FAQ which says there is free national.

My mate is still kicking himself for not upgrading to the 512 up a week back since now he wont be able to, and 10 gigs on the old 2meg/128k costs the same as 10 gig on the new 256/128 plan, so it is definatly a huge step backwards IMO


edit; nevermind, found it, there I was tabbing around thinking that the words "What data traffic is accountable?" would be a link (I tend to tab around pages since this bardsardization of the web of non underlined links happened) when infact there was a popup thingie that only came up when I moused over the ? beside it...Bloody useless website




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  Reply # 51384 7-Nov-2006 01:09
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richms: Where does it say that the new plans dont have free national? All I can see mentioning national traffic is the FAQ which says there is free national.

Go down the XNET HSI Broadband page at:

http://www.xnet.co.nz/internet/broadband.shtml

to just above Step 3: Sign Up

There is a bullet point with "What data traffic is accountable?"
Move your mouse pointer over the question mark and you will see the following:

Xnet Stream, River and Flood plans measure all National and International Usage.

It would appear that the FAQ still has not been updated.

As you say, 10 Gig on the old 2Meg/128k plan costs the same as 10 Gig on the new 256k/128k plan, so why would I want to change?

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  Reply # 51505 7-Nov-2006 20:00
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I'm most likely going to stay on the 2mb/10 gig plan, mainly because I don't think the dslam I go off (Te Aroha) has enough bankhaul going into it to support full speed. When downloading from international I only average 60-80k a sec, so not really worth paying $12 a month more for just a faster line connection when I don't expect my actual net performance to get any better.



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  Reply # 51520 7-Nov-2006 21:30
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Grant17:
simon14: I don't think it's good to take away a service that was the reaosn for many of their customers signing up to them for (free national traffic)

Simon:  That's not correct.  If you stay on one of the existing plans, you still get your National Traffic for free.  It's only on the new plans that different rules apply.


Apparently after 3 months we have to change to the new plans.

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  Reply # 51521 7-Nov-2006 21:48
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simon14: Apparently after 3 months we have to change to the new plans.

When I spoke to one of the women in their sales team yesterday, she said:

"We are not forcing anybody to move to the new plans".

So I hope this continues to be the case.  However, I will keep your warning in mind and may look around for something else.  It's pretty hard to find though, for the needs of our family, this is a good value plan.

As you say, I very much doubt that changing the line speed from 2Mbps to around 6Mbps (as we had during the Full-speed Jetstream days), would make any difference to the actual throughput to the internet.  Everything upstream of us is so choked up now that it might even be slower as others have experienced...

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