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Topic # 10257 13-Nov-2006 12:04
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orcon is going to have vdsl2 next year and iptv. we will be able to have a set-top box connected to our tv sets using a phone line. vdsl2 is 100mbps.even if your far away from the exchange you'll still get fast speeds.article here:

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  Reply # 52170 13-Nov-2006 14:57
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Anyone still dubious that LLU won't encourage investment?

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Reply # 52172 13-Nov-2006 15:22
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JonC: Anyone still dubious that LLU won't encourage investment?

In terms of an actual competing network, yes. After all this is very much "leaching" off Telecom's infrastructure, is it not?


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  Reply # 52173 13-Nov-2006 15:27
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Well, if you mean paying Telecom to use bit of wire between house and exchange, then yes, they are "leaching".

The investment is in the backhaul and equipment in the exchanges.  The sort of investment that Telecom has obviously not been doing much of in the past few years.

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  Reply # 52174 13-Nov-2006 15:40
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From the article:
Telecom uses broadband ADSL2+ with maximum download speeds of up to 8 megabits.

Oops, maybe the reliability of information in this article should be called into question.

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  Reply # 52175 13-Nov-2006 15:47
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the Herald is good like that. I refused to even click the link to follow the story! Apart from the lack of research into the article and the lack of any IT knowledge by the author, Orcon actually announced these plans at least a month ago...

EDIT: - from Juha's blog (3 months ago... good one NZ Herald)

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  Reply # 52222 13-Nov-2006 21:07
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stacey1122: vdsl2 is 100mbps.even if your far away from the exchange you'll still get fast speeds.

Yes its 100mbps to your VDSL modem sitting right next to the DSLAM you have just cabled with brand new cabling after ensuring all proper spectrum management issue have been taken into account.

Please, figures such as these are as pointless as car manufactures putting speeds up to 280KM/H on ma and pa's SUV for daily commuting.

Also secondly don't equate (the peak) 100mbps figure with your Internet speeds if you are assuming this (and I know some people will). Most of the capacity will be used for IPTV streaming and the like, also think of the contention ratios for Internet traffic at Orcons end now not to mention the contention ratios of backhaul to the exchanges. Sure they will increase their domestic and international capacity (presumably) but will they increase it by the order of magnitude that VDSL has the potential to increase speeds by.

Far be it from me to disparage VDSL2+ and Orcons planned roll out but keep in mind the reality of the likely service you will get over this network.

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Reply # 52225 13-Nov-2006 21:21
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Next thing you will see posts around here complaining "I can't get 100 Mbps on my Orcon connection...."

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  Reply # 52227 13-Nov-2006 22:12
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The 100 Mbps quoted is the equivalent of the 7.6Mbps that gets thrown around when talking about regular ADSL.... doesn't paint the whole picture.

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