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#102608 18-May-2012 08:24

I have a few questions re VDSL2 delivery and availabliliy.

I have checked the chorus service availability tool and the two cabinets close to my business address have had VDSL2 since Nov 2010 and Jan 2011.

So far I cant find anyone offering VDSL services? Does anyone know if i am able to get VDSL from anyone given the staus of my cabinets?

Also what type of presentation will VDSL have? I currently have compass wireless and use a Cisco 881 Ethernet router. Does/will VDSL have an ethernet presentation?

Does anyone have any equipment recommendations if my existing equipment is not compatible.

Thanks.

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#627172 18-May-2012 08:31

Snap offer the service and the gear needed

Anything I suggest or say is my own thoughts and not provided by anyone else unless stated

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#627189 18-May-2012 09:18

Hiya Dimsim,

The only way to confirm VDSL availability is to request a pre-qualification from an ISP offering the VDSL Service.
The results are typically fast, being returned almost immediately.

If you fire me through your address/phone number via PM, I can check this for you.

VDSL runs over POTS (same as ADSL) - so your Cisco 881 will either need a bridgeable modem in front of it (such as the ZyXEL 870H), or you'd need to purchase a new router - the 887V/VA is the VDSL model in the series.
The ZyXEL 870H is a very capable modem in it's own right as well ... otherwise there a numerous offerings from modem vendors :)

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dimsim: I have a few questions re VDSL2 delivery and availabliliy.

I have checked the chorus service availability tool and the two cabinets close to my business address have had VDSL2 since Nov 2010 and Jan 2011.

So far I cant find anyone offering VDSL services? Does anyone know if i am able to get VDSL from anyone given the staus of my cabinets?

Also what type of presentation will VDSL have? I currently have compass wireless and use a Cisco 881 Ethernet router. Does/will VDSL have an ethernet presentation?

Does anyone have any equipment recommendations if my existing equipment is not compatible.

Thanks.

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#627197 18-May-2012 09:44

CUnl: Hiya Dimsim,

The only way to confirm VDSL availability is to request a pre-qualification from an ISP offering the VDSL Service.
The results are typically fast, being returned almost immediately.

If you fire me through your address/phone number via PM, I can check this for you.

VDSL runs over POTS (same as ADSL) - so your Cisco 881 will either need a bridgeable modem in front of it (such as the ZyXEL 870H), or you'd need to purchase a new router - the 887V/VA is the VDSL model in the series.
The ZyXEL 870H is a very capable modem in it's own right as well ... otherwise there a numerous offerings from modem vendors :)

~ C

dimsim: I have a few questions re VDSL2 delivery and availabliliy.

I have checked the chorus service availability tool and the two cabinets close to my business address have had VDSL2 since Nov 2010 and Jan 2011.

So far I cant find anyone offering VDSL services? Does anyone know if i am able to get VDSL from anyone given the staus of my cabinets?

Also what type of presentation will VDSL have? I currently have compass wireless and use a Cisco 881 Ethernet router. Does/will VDSL have an ethernet presentation?

Does anyone have any equipment recommendations if my existing equipment is not compatible.

Thanks.

Thanks - will do.

I have previously (three times) made a request with Clear for one of their BizNet plans but each time I followed up with them they had no record of my call nor the results of any checks or tests they had (or hadn't) made. I guess given that level of service im now pretty much unenamoured with them :) so lookin for something different.

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#627211 18-May-2012 10:01

CUnl:
The only way to confirm VDSL availability is to request a pre-qualification from an ISP offering the VDSL Service.
The results are typically fast, being returned almost immediately.

Just curious, but does the pre-qual give an indication of what speeds you're likely to get.

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#627219 18-May-2012 10:07

sidefx:
Just curious, but does the pre-qual give an indication of what speeds you're likely to get.

Yes, it usually does.

However, the given values are very conservative and the achieved rates are often quite a bit higher. :)

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#627222 18-May-2012 10:16

very cool... might have to see if I can sell the extra expense to the better half ;-)

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#627224 18-May-2012 10:18

sidefx: very cool... might have to see if I can sell the extra expense to the better half ;-)

Feel free (and anyone else as well) to PM me your address/phone number and I'll prequal the site and let you know what to expect :)

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#627232 18-May-2012 10:36

dimsim:
So far I cant find anyone offering VDSL services?

Small nimble ISP's are offering it now.

Larger ISP's are slow to offer new products, probably have a lot of billing and support prep work to do before they will offer it.

Some are probably just going to go straight to UFB and skip offering VDSL2.

Here are some:

Snap
http://www.snap.net.nz/support/content/3/47/en/what-is-vdsl.html

Actrix
http://www.actrix.co.nz/page.php?id=314

Unleash (business focused but will connect residential)
http://www.unleash.co.nz/commercial-internet/xdsl

Kiwilink
http://www.kiwilink.co.nz/broadband/VDSL.php

Others like Maxnet, ICONZ, Orcon can probably offer it just no information on their websites yet, give them a ring.

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#627233 18-May-2012 10:38

Ragnor:
dimsim:
So far I cant find anyone offering VDSL services?

Small nimble ISP's are offering it now.

Larger ISP's are slow to offer new products, probably have a lot of billing and support prep work to do before they will offer it.

Some are probably just going to go straight to UFB and skip offering VDSL2.

Here are some:

Snap
http://www.snap.net.nz/support/content/3/47/en/what-is-vdsl.html

Actrix
http://www.actrix.co.nz/page.php?id=314

Unleash (business focused but will connect residential)
http://www.unleash.co.nz/commercial-internet/xdsl

Kiwilink
http://www.kiwilink.co.nz/broadband/VDSL.php

Others like Maxnet, ICONZ, Orcon can probably offer it just no information on their websites yet, give them a ring.

Thank-you, great info,

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#627258 18-May-2012 11:28

Btw, I can highly recommend Snap's VDSL offering. We use it here at work and we connect at 50Mbit/10Mbit and have seen download speeds up to 5.5MB/s, uploads of 1MB/s

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#627260 18-May-2012 11:31

Noodles: Btw, I can highly recommend Snap's VDSL offering. We use it here at work and we connect at 50Mbit/10Mbit and have seen download speeds up to 5.5MB/s, uploads of 1MB/s

Thanks for that - the best upload speed is my primary concern as we run a couple of VPN's.

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#627281 18-May-2012 12:03

dimsim:
CUnl: Hiya Dimsim,

The only way to confirm VDSL availability is to request a pre-qualification from an ISP offering the VDSL Service.
The results are typically fast, being returned almost immediately.

If you fire me through your address/phone number via PM, I can check this for you.

VDSL runs over POTS (same as ADSL) - so your Cisco 881 will either need a bridgeable modem in front of it (such as the ZyXEL 870H), or you'd need to purchase a new router - the 887V/VA is the VDSL model in the series.
The ZyXEL 870H is a very capable modem in it's own right as well ... otherwise there a numerous offerings from modem vendors :)

~ C

dimsim: I have a few questions re VDSL2 delivery and availabliliy.

I have checked the chorus service availability tool and the two cabinets close to my business address have had VDSL2 since Nov 2010 and Jan 2011.

So far I cant find anyone offering VDSL services? Does anyone know if i am able to get VDSL from anyone given the staus of my cabinets?

Also what type of presentation will VDSL have? I currently have compass wireless and use a Cisco 881 Ethernet router. Does/will VDSL have an ethernet presentation?

Does anyone have any equipment recommendations if my existing equipment is not compatible.

Thanks.

Thanks - will do.

I have previously (three times) made a request with Clear for one of their BizNet plans but each time I followed up with them they had no record of my call nor the results of any checks or tests they had (or hadn't) made. I guess given that level of service im now pretty much unenamoured with them :) so lookin for something different.

Telstra use their own copper network for their VDSL service and it is not available in many areas that Chorus VDSL2 is available. It is also far slower and far more expensive than ISPs offering options over Chorus.

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#627284 18-May-2012 12:07

Zeon:
dimsim:
CUnl: Hiya Dimsim,

The only way to confirm VDSL availability is to request a pre-qualification from an ISP offering the VDSL Service.
The results are typically fast, being returned almost immediately.

If you fire me through your address/phone number via PM, I can check this for you.

VDSL runs over POTS (same as ADSL) - so your Cisco 881 will either need a bridgeable modem in front of it (such as the ZyXEL 870H), or you'd need to purchase a new router - the 887V/VA is the VDSL model in the series.
The ZyXEL 870H is a very capable modem in it's own right as well ... otherwise there a numerous offerings from modem vendors :)

~ C

dimsim: I have a few questions re VDSL2 delivery and availabliliy.

I have checked the chorus service availability tool and the two cabinets close to my business address have had VDSL2 since Nov 2010 and Jan 2011.

So far I cant find anyone offering VDSL services? Does anyone know if i am able to get VDSL from anyone given the staus of my cabinets?

Also what type of presentation will VDSL have? I currently have compass wireless and use a Cisco 881 Ethernet router. Does/will VDSL have an ethernet presentation?

Does anyone have any equipment recommendations if my existing equipment is not compatible.

Thanks.

Thanks - will do.

I have previously (three times) made a request with Clear for one of their BizNet plans but each time I followed up with them they had no record of my call nor the results of any checks or tests they had (or hadn't) made. I guess given that level of service im now pretty much unenamoured with them :) so lookin for something different.

Telstra use their own copper network for their VDSL service and it is not available in many areas that Chorus VDSL2 is available. It is also far slower and far more expensive than ISPs offering options over Chorus.

Thanks - thats the final nail in the coffin for them then :)

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#627285 18-May-2012 12:07

Zeon:
Telstra use their own copper network for their VDSL service and it is not available in many areas that Chorus VDSL2 is available. It is also far slower and far more expensive than ISPs offering options over Chorus.

TCL do resell the Chorus Wholesale VDSL Service - but only for Business.

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#627655 19-May-2012 10:46

If you need someone to do a Prequal I can plug your phone number / address and do the check too.

The Chorus SAT site should tell you if you have VDSL coverage at your address by turning on the VDSL layer.

The PreQual test will give you a conservative signal quality and line speed based off calculations that Chorus have made.

But when you have ordered it Chorus will come out and test the line to make sure it works within the acceptable tolerance levels.

You will also need a Master Filter installed to make sure the wiring to the VDSL router is good.