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#10572 29-Nov-2006 13:25
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I'm having a second line installed, I also want a splitter put on the line.
But thanks to Telecom being 'fair' they can't attach the 2 orders because my ISP is Woosh, so Woosh must order the splitter!
Then Telecom will put the splitter on, now I'm not even going to attempt to ask Woosh to tell Telecom to put on the splitter with the installation of my new line, that is clearly going to be too much bother.

So my hope is if I have a splitter, hopefully identical to what Telecom uses, I can get the technician to put it on himself. (well not on himself, on the line ;)

So does anyone know where I can get a Telecom quality splitter at hopefully something like trade prices?

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  #54154 29-Nov-2006 13:46
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Go to MasterTrade and buy one of these:

Code467169
DescriptionADSL001 ADSL SPLITTER INLINE FILTER
Product Group300: SECURITY, DATA & COMMUNICATIONS
Product Class210: DATA PERIPHERAL CONNECTIVITY
Retail Price$22.67



There you go!

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  #54157 29-Nov-2006 14:06
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I think that's a standard filter, not a splitter, but mastertrade to seem to have a splitter, though it's more than double the price.

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  #54160 29-Nov-2006 14:20
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A splitter or Filter its the same thing, there is only one actual device and that is a low pass filter. The thing Telecom installs is the $50odd one you would find at master trade, it is a black epoxyed block made by MarqueMagneitcs with a orange and blue twisted pair from each end. The only differnce between that filter and a basic one that you can get at DSE for $15 is that there are more poles in the filter therefore expected better performance, and high DC pass current capability, therefore more ringers can ring and more phones can be off hook at anytime without effecting ADSL performance.



That said I have often compared a $15 filter from DSE with the MarqMagnetics one and see no difference in connection performance. of course if you had full REN5 ringers in the install and 10phones off the hook at once the simple filter might not keep your ADSL circuit happy.



I have regularly pulled a cheap $15 DSE filter appart and wired a twisted pair to each end and installed it as a filter for a whole house, works a treat.



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  #54161 29-Nov-2006 14:21
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antigrav:
But thanks to Telecom being 'fair' they can't attach the 2 orders because my ISP is Woosh, so Woosh must order the splitter!
Then Telecom will put the splitter on, now I'm not even going to attempt to ask Woosh to tell Telecom to put on the splitter with the installation of my new line, that is clearly going to be too much bother.
How is that a 'problem'? Your ISP are the people who handle support for your connection and then pass it on to the right people. They should be able to action that for you. As your comment suggests, you aren't even going to bother trying to contact woosh so they can order a splitter install - so this seems like a poor attempt to take another swipe at Telecom. 

If you wanted to be able to call Telecom directly and order it - then you're probably better off with Xtra. 




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  #54164 29-Nov-2006 14:49
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cyril7: The thing Telecom installs is the $50odd one you would find at master trade, it is a black epoxyed block made by MarqueMagneitcs with a orange and blue twisted pair from each end.

OK, in that case you could go for this one:

ST550 ADSL IN-LINE FILTER TELEPERM
Code 342371
Description ST550 ADSL IN-LINE FILTER TELEPERM 
Product Group 300: SECURITY, DATA & COMMUNICATIONS
Product Class 210: DATA PERIPHERAL CONNECTIVITY
Retail Price $77.08


Or possibly this one:


20021673 ADSL FILTER HARDWIRED
Code 297802
Description 20021673 ADSL FILTER HARDWIRED 
Product Group 300: SECURITY, DATA & COMMUNICATIONS
Product Class 210: DATA PERIPHERAL CONNECTIVITY
Retail Price $86.67

I'm not sure which is these is the MarqueMagnetics manufactured one that you are referring to Cyril?


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  #54165 29-Nov-2006 14:53
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Grant, I cant seem to find a link to the codes you have presented but here is the Marque Magnetics one.


http://www.industrysearch.com.au/products/viewrecord.aspx?id=6905 



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#54166 29-Nov-2006 14:55
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Just call Woosh and order the splitter.. will it kill you?

 
 
 

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  #54167 29-Nov-2006 15:06
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Thanks Cyril,

That picture makes it pretty clear which splitter is the one to go for.

Antigrav, if you go along to MasterTrade armed with printouts of Cyril's picture and the Product Codes I posted above, someone at MasterTrade will be able to sort it out for you.  With any luck you might be able to get it cheaper than the Retail Price too, although that depends on the discretion of the staff at whichever MasterTrade branch you chose to go to.

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  #54168 29-Nov-2006 15:42
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cokemaster:
antigrav:
But thanks to Telecom being 'fair' they can't attach the 2 orders because my ISP is Woosh, so Woosh must order the splitter!
Then Telecom will put the splitter on, now I'm not even going to attempt to ask Woosh to tell Telecom to put on the splitter with the installation of my new line, that is clearly going to be too much bother.
How is that a 'problem'? Your ISP are the people who handle support for your connection and then pass it on to the right people. They should be able to action that for you. As your comment suggests, you aren't even going to bother trying to contact woosh so they can order a splitter install - so this seems like a poor attempt to take another swipe at Telecom.

If you wanted to be able to call Telecom directly and order it - then you're probably better off with Xtra.


I did actually ring Woosh and as predicted it isn't possible.

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#54169 29-Nov-2006 15:59
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Free installation applies to $99 self-install option only. Where additional wiring is required, a $149 wiring charge may apply.
I wonder if that $149 is referring to a splitter install as the option is there for them to order it. Whether or not they want to do it is another thing. 

Other providers such as Orcon offer splitter installs, so I can't see it being too much of a problem for woosh to get it actioned. 




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  #54250 30-Nov-2006 00:32
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On a different subject (somewhat off topic for the forum let alone this post, but I'm near my witts end (some here would argue that's nothing new)) I'm looking for kiwi's to test the payment system of a site I'm about to launch.
The site is ready (about 10 mins worth of work left) but the payment system (paypal) is buggy.

If you use a paypal account it works, but if you pay through paypal by credit card, well it hasn't worked for any of the 3-5 cards I've tested with (of the 5, two were on the same account, and one gave a different error messages than the rest) even though the same card works if you use it through a paypal account!?!

However the programmer (code.gogo.com) found his card worked, and a guy in OZ and another in Norway had no problems.

So I'm looking for kiwi's with credit cards to try it out, the site is www.SeeMoreDoMore.com

I'll refund in full (paypal also refund transaction fees) the $2.50nz for the unlock code (or $12 for the subscription), but if your unsure I'm ok with sending $2.50 into your paypal or if you prefer ASB account before you even pay.

Simply register (dead easy) surf to a populated interest, (computers is well filled out) and click on a user, go from there.
BTW I'll give a free year subscription to anyone that helps out.

for those still nervous, I don't see any cc details, and paypal is very good at giving refunds to anyone that demands one. (not that you'll need to ask, I'll action it as soon as I see it)

Admin's, I apologize for this rather off-topic post.

Any feedback on the site also appreciated.

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  #54255 30-Nov-2006 02:08
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The darndest thing!

While I wouldn;t mind more people testing to see if it works, it seems I have in part solved it by taking a big gamble.

I gave someone I know casually on irc my own CC number that failed for me, it worked for him, therefore it's the local machine somehow, the connection, the router, the PC, the OS, the browser, something.

So at this point all your likely to do by testing it is telling me if your machine is accepted, not your credit card.

Thanks for any who considered it anyway, and do check www.SeeMoreDoMore.com 90% chance it will launch tomorrow! (works fine as it is though)



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#54282 30-Nov-2006 11:53
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antigrav: it seems I have in part solved it by taking a big gamble.

I gave someone I know casually on irc my own CC number that failed for me, it worked for him


You just hand out your CC number to anyone? Big gamble = understatement of the year?




 

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#54283 30-Nov-2006 11:55
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This is completely OT, but here it goes.

Does you or your developer know there's a "Paypal sandbox" where you can develop things, test and not be actually charged? I wrote the Geekzone subscription service using Paypal and tested with their sandbox. Then put it live. And it took me a couple of hours to write it.







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