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#113958 2-Feb-2013 22:23
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Is there any way/benefit to saying just before UFB's connected "hey yes I want UFB connected as soon as it's available"?

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  #754905 2-Feb-2013 22:29
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Nope, the roll out timetable is already all set out, mostly.



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  #755078 3-Feb-2013 14:52
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I know the rollout timetable is set, but is there any benefit to saying "when you roll it out outside my house, connect my house straight away"? Or do I just wait then once they've gone past, torn up the footpath, do I call up and arrange to have it dug up again?

Or when they go past do they automatically connect each house?

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  #755091 3-Feb-2013 15:28
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timmmay: I know the rollout timetable is set, but is there any benefit to saying "when you roll it out outside my house, connect my house straight away"? Or do I just wait then once they've gone past, torn up the footpath, do I call up and arrange to have it dug up again?

Or when they go past do they automatically connect each house?


You have to wait till the RSP (Chorus/Enable/Wel/etc) have everything hooked up at the backend POPs etc, that can take several months, then you contact an ISP who does UFB in your area and you go through them :)




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  #755098 3-Feb-2013 15:46
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It could be as even though it looks like its installed the cabinets etc. may not have been finished. If its in a smaller region some of the RSPs may not be able to take connections in that region also.




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  #755160 3-Feb-2013 18:23
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Ok, thanks for that. I'm in a fairly built up area of Wellington, so should be sorted quickly enough.

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  #755174 3-Feb-2013 18:50
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They installed all the fibre optics in my street (and surrounding streets) back in December. However the network won't be livened up until this month.

Chorus's availablity tool on their website should tell you when it will be available to be connected to.




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  #755190 3-Feb-2013 19:28
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UFB in our street went live a few weeks back, but the only provider that seems to be able to supply us at this stage is Orcon. I contacted Snap, and they said they don't have any equipment in my area, and it doesn't sound like they have any urgent plans to install it. I'm not that keen on signing with Orcon, so I'm really just hoping that Telecom announce their plans soon, so I have at least a choice of two.

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  #755195 3-Feb-2013 19:52
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UFB isn't a direct replacement for copper so we don't do what they do in Australia and complete the install at each house in each street as the infrastructure is rolled out.

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  #755212 3-Feb-2013 20:59
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When the Chorus built UFB communial infrastructor is built down your streets, fibre is not actualy layed to each address.

If there was already a ducted system (with oval pits in the ground) then for about every 24 houses a fibre terminal is installed in a larger pit - this is connected back to the cabinet - each house is not automaticaly hooked up but when you request a connection via an isp then we (the installers) run a fibre from that terminal to your house. (then install fibre inside)

If a microduct has been laid down the street (the green duct) then again each house is not hooked up automaticaly but when your request for a connection via an isp then we (the installers) extend the tubeing up to your house and then 'blow' a fibre from the cabinet to your house. (then install fibre inside)

The Building of the infrastructor and Provisioning of a connection on it are not directly related processes

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  #755215 3-Feb-2013 21:07
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Seems like if they're digging a hole to go past my house it's easier to extend it into the house then, rather than come back. Probably not worth the organising though.

Can fiber go into the house without digging a huge trench in the lawn? I just had a new lawn put down, it's finally taking off, I'd hate to dig it up again! It never goes back down quite right, you have to sow and do it again from seed really.

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  #755217 3-Feb-2013 21:11
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timmmay: Can fiber go into the house without digging a huge trench in the lawn?


Yes. Vast majority of installs aren't a "huge trench". If you're an overhead drop it will be overhead, if you're underground using conduit the existing copper will typically be used as a draw wire.

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  #755219 3-Feb-2013 21:12
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Right now everything's overhead, the only thing under the ground is gas. I suspect UFB is going underground though, based on the paint all over the footpath and road.

What happens if it's underground and there's no existing conduit? Can they dig sideways or something? Probably not I guess.

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  #755231 3-Feb-2013 21:31
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timmmay: Right now everything's overhead, the only thing under the ground is gas. I suspect UFB is going underground though, based on the paint all over the footpath and road.

What happens if it's underground and there's no existing conduit? Can they dig sideways or something? Probably not I guess.



BTW - The crews that build the infrustuctor arent the same people who install your connection


If you have an overhead copper connection then this will be replaced with a new fibre one for UFB

and yes we do thrust/drill in new conduits under driveways, paths, gardens and lawns were possible

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  #755232 3-Feb-2013 21:36
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I have Telecom copper coming into the house overhead, and Telstra Clear cable. Going in overhead would be ideal, but if the UFB is underground not sure how they'd manage that.

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  #755236 3-Feb-2013 21:46
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timmmay: I have Telecom copper coming into the house overhead, and Telstra Clear cable. Going in overhead would be ideal, but if the UFB is underground not sure how they'd manage that.


UFB might be underground down the street (it is also built up poles and arial along pole lines) - but will be connected overhead if your copper/cable services come in that way at present

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