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Topic # 11597 1-Feb-2007 13:39
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Hello, I just moved into a new apartment, i now have my phone and internet connected. But a problem has surfaced.

My phone jack in the wall is not the standard size (rj11 i thinks is its tech name anyway its the standard one that 99% of homes happen) instead mine is the smaller one that you plug your broadband cable into normally with a standard filter.

I have no idea if this is noraml or not (I suspect not) so i need to find a filter that will work with this slighly differnt set up, thus far in my search I have only found the noraml filters which are no good to me.

Does A filter that will help me actually exist?
Where can i get one if it does asap?


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  Reply # 59483 1-Feb-2007 13:52
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You seem to have provided conflicting information. In NZ and Aus RJ11's are not what is normally fitted as a wall socket. In NZ its a BT socket and in Aus its the large flat arrangement.

If you want more help purhaps you should refrase exactly what you have, maybe even photograph it.

Also are you in NZ or Aus, this will make a diff

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  Reply # 59488 1-Feb-2007 14:14
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Infact thinking about what you said its quite possible that you are looking at a RJ45 (Etherlan) socket. It is pretty common (and recommended I might add) in new homes and apartments these days to wire all telecomunication sockets as RJ45 with Cat5e/6 cable to a common point. This way you can either feed phones services or Ethernet, or both simultaionly to any socket in the building.

It is standard practice to use the centre pair (blue pair) of an RJ45 socket for phone purposes. This pair (along with the Tan pair) is not used by 10/100BaseT. Thus can be used for phone.

Assuming all the above is so, then Dick Smith (and most electrical suppliers) will sell you a RJ45 plug to BT phone Socket adaptor for a few dollars, try the following, RJ45<>BT

How many pins are in the socket on the wall, 2,4,6 or 8. If its 8 then its an RJ45.

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  Reply # 59498 1-Feb-2007 14:55
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Infact thinking about what you said its quite possible that you are looking at a RJ45 (Etherlan) socket. It is pretty common (and recommended I might add) in new homes and apartments these days to wire all telecomunication sockets as RJ45 with Cat5e/6 cable to a common point. This way you can either feed phones services or Ethernet, or both simultaionly to any socket in the building.

It is standard practice to use the centre pair (blue pair) of an RJ45 socket for phone purposes. This pair (along with the Tan pair) is not used by 10/100BaseT. Thus can be used for phone.

Assuming all the above is so, then Dick Smith (and most electrical suppliers) will sell you a RJ45 plug to BT phone Socket adaptor for a few dollars, try the following, RJ45<>BT

How many pins are in the socket on the wall, 2,4,6 or 8. If its 8 then its an RJ45.

Cyril

Okay so I'm in New Zealand for a start, so that means the standard is the BT (rectangular in shape) wall socket. but what we have is an adsl (smaller and square in shape) wall socket. the wall socket has 8 pins.

I'm not sure about the other stuff in your second post it goes a bit over my head. the filter you put the in the link form dick smiths has the right kind of plug to put into the wall but it needs two connections one adsl for the internet and one bt for the phone i assume.

Does that Help?

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  Reply # 59499 1-Feb-2007 15:02
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If it has 8pins then its an RJ45. I guess you must assume that the phone circuit from the exchange has been connected to this socket. Get yourself the adaptor I pointed out from DSE, this will provide a transition from the RJ45 socket to a standard BT socket. This is not a filter just an adaptor that takes the centre pins of the RJ45 and presents them on a standard BT phone socket.

Plug your ADSL filter into the formentioned adaptors BT socket in the normal manner, the ADSL filter will have a BT socket for your phone, and a RJ11 (4pin) socket for your ADSL modem, done! Note I assume you already have a standard ADSL micro filter with a BT jack, and a filtered BT socket for phone, and RJ11 for adsl.

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  Reply # 59501 1-Feb-2007 15:20
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I understand now, thank you very much Cyril, most Excellent, thanks for the help off to DSE i go.

Cheers
Rob.

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