Is there a guide to allowable install locations for the ONT?

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Topic # 116890 13-May-2013 12:11

I'm in the process of doing some structured cabling for my house and looking at the underside of the house for various bits including my router. When UFB finally rolls out to my area I would like to install the ONT box under the house as that is where the cables enter the property and I have power down there.

My question is are there any restrictions on the placement of the ONT boxes? I'm not sure where to look and google was no help!

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Reply # 816684 13-May-2013 12:58

Try
http://www.chorus.co.nz/wiring-for-fibre

or
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?topicid=108974

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Reply # 816689 13-May-2013 13:05

From a Chorus PDF

"The home distributor box must be inside the premises and is typically installed on a garage wall or in a utility room for new homes"

I'm considering putting mine in the ceiling cavity, perhaps with some kind of cooling or insulation, as it can get hot up there.

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Reply # 816743 13-May-2013 13:55

Hmmm... Thanks.

Looks like a cupboard is best, proabably in an enclosure. I know there are the Dynamix enclosures but are there any flushmount units I can install?

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Reply # 816744 13-May-2013 13:58

'Typically' suggests flexibility and especially given that we are no longer just talking about an ETP and a case of a cable but an internal device as the householder you should get input into where that goes.

For example my cabling ends up in a cupboard inside the house, not in the garage so I would expect them to place it there. They won't be able to place it on the wall in the garage behind the ETP because there are gas pipes in the wall and as such on room for anything else.

Hence 'typically' i guess :)

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Reply # 816784 13-May-2013 14:50

Indeed Shock.

My house is a typical 1960's build with rooms at the front and no utility area. Any install is simply going to be a difficulty unless they're willing to provide a bit of flexibility as the closest landing point is a bedroom!

Hopefully I can find a flush mountable enclosure as I can then find space in a cupboard for it with a power point beside it.

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Reply # 816785 13-May-2013 14:54

As I mentioned in a previous thread installing any equipment under a house is an extremely bad idea.

If you're going to install structured cabling run it all back to a cupboard.

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Reply # 816808 13-May-2013 15:19

Do not put it there. It will get extremely dirty, the dampness will be bad for it and it will suck to work on. Made that mistake a year ago at a site and working to move it all back inside now. garage or cupboard is best.

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Reply # 816815 13-May-2013 15:31

Hey SBiddle,

Had a reply all written too lost it though :-(

Due to the earlier thread on the modem, I'm now looking at how to get it in the cupboard... I need a flush mountable enclosure and a hope that the UFB isntallers will run it under the house in to the cupboard!

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Reply # 816836 13-May-2013 15:54

A good reason for having the ONT inside the house is that in the event of a problem with your internet or 'phone connection, the LED's on the ONT can assist towards identifying the problem.

If you loose your connection and call your ISP for help they will probably ask you to report on the status of the varies LED's on the ONT. Much easier if your ONT is inside.

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Reply # 817011 13-May-2013 20:23

The basic answer to the ONT possitioning is that it can be installed anywhere but it must be; Accessable, permanently mounted (or at least the base is), mounted verticaly (for correct ventalation - it dosent have a fan) , In an enviromentaly safe location (Low Dust, Low Humidity etc) - just think would I leave my PC in that place long term if the answer is no then it isnt a good place for an ONT and last but not least can cableing be run to and from it

It dosent have to go in the same location as your router (RGW) but it may help if it is - It doesent have to go in a box/cabinet/frame but can be just crewed on the back of a cupboard Etc

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Reply # 817119 13-May-2013 23:30

The installer who did my place was very flexible - they proposed the lounge behind the TV, but were more than happy to install it in an upstairs cupboard once I expressed a preference for that - even though it was ~10m from the entry point to the house - they ran the fibre from the pole all the way through the roofspace, and actually put the ETP in the cupboard as well.

Having said that, I agree with other replies that under the house is not a good idea.

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Reply # 817260 14-May-2013 10:52

As I'm going to take everyones recommendation that under house = bad, I need to do some work in the cupboard... Can anyone recommend where I can get a flush mounted enclosure to mount a router, modem (and the ONT when fibre rolls out in my area), a switch and some DVB-S/T splitters for my tv system.

I can do all the work myself, it just appears that googling for something similar doesn't actually come with an enclosure that would work!

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Reply # 817398 14-May-2013 13:42

Benoire: As I'm going to take everyones recommendation that under house = bad, I need to do some work in the cupboard... Can anyone recommend where I can get a flush mounted enclosure to mount a router, modem (and the ONT when fibre rolls out in my area), a switch and some DVB-S/T splitters for my tv system.

I can do all the work myself, it just appears that googling for something similar doesn't actually come with an enclosure that would work!

all the routers i've had come with wall mounting brackets, suppose you could make your own or just tape it to the wall

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Reply # 817400 14-May-2013 13:45

You're right I could but I want to do this properly. I'll also need to bring a load of cables from under the house from the various rooms, plus the DVB-S cables in to the box so I don't want a load of cables popping out of the floor through the carpet, I'd rather have them through the gap between the studs... Much neater.

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Reply # 817565 14-May-2013 17:49

Benoire: You're right I could but I want to do this properly. I'll also need to bring a load of cables from under the house from the various rooms, plus the DVB-S cables in to the box so I don't want a load of cables popping out of the floor through the carpet, I'd rather have them through the gap between the studs... Much neater.

Yeah, that's the way to go. This is how I've got my cables arranged under the house:

All the cables go up through green Telecom/Chorus conduit into my linen cupboard. I have one spare conduit for extra network cables in the future. All my cables are supported by galvanised steel wires that you can see one of in the pic.

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